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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 07:44 PM
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Not sure if I mentioned that my buddy did the pusher install, (same as your kit)...he loves it and zero issues. His truck is a 2019 F350 DRW and is totally stock. Could your AEM water methanol injection or any other mods you have done be playing games with the entire system?
 
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Old Jul 13, 2024 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by jimzpsd
Not sure if I mentioned that my buddy did the pusher install, (same as your kit)...he loves it and zero issues. His truck is a 2019 F350 DRW and is totally stock. Could your AEM water methanol injection or any other mods you have done be playing games with the entire system?

the banks Derringer and pedal monster has been turn off for the last 1500 miles

the AEM system has been turned off as well for the last 1500 miles.

i took my egr cooler out to check it and it was fine.

replaced the egr valve just to eliminate it, as well as the throttle body, IAT, map, ebp, mass air flow .

i added banks air intake and dpf back k exhuast but the p0069 was happening months before that.

i have the pusher intake and the pusher cold side.

the only thing i know for sure..aside from all this map data….is that if I put the stick intake ba k on (plastic top and aluminum bottom) no p0069 codes.

with the lates mod to a new throttle body the map behavior looks good.


I did do a ccv reroute but I had the p0069 months before that too.


the p0069 is definitely a shut down problem and the code appears in the next restart.

hopefully the lates mode will end this.

I went with a nylon machine screw so I don’t crack the plastic gear..but…I don’t know if the position sensor will cuase the pcm to keep trying to close the throttle plate and if that will put a load on the pcm circuit that drives this…if I could find male and female connectors I would wire in an inrush limiter.


 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 08:59 AM
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I wonder if your Pusher is sucking/leaking air from another location, bad casting, bad gasket, o-ring, clamp, etc. Just seems like its the source. Other threads I have been reading are finding that a bad EBP sensor is bad, but this is normally including a P0470 code as well. For what its worth, check your EBP sensor, perhaps it got bent or cracked during the Pusher install. Its a cheap part too, maybe just replace it with a new one.

What is the code P0069 on a 6.7 L Ford?
A logged P0069 code means that there is a great difference in the readings between the MAP sensor and the BARO sensor, which can result in several performance issues. A faulty MAP or BARO sensor and damaged vacuum lines are some of the common issues that could trigger this code.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jimzpsd
I wonder if your Pusher is sucking/leaking air from another location, bad casting, bad gasket, o-ring, clamp, etc. Just seems like its the source. Other threads I have been reading are finding that a bad EBP sensor is bad, but this is normally including a P0470 code as well. For what its worth, check your EBP sensor, perhaps it got bent or cracked during the Pusher install. Its a cheap part too, maybe just replace it with a new one.

What is the code P0069 on a 6.7 L Ford?
A logged P0069 code means that there is a great difference in the readings between the MAP sensor and the BARO sensor, which can result in several performance issues. A faulty MAP or BARO sensor and damaged vacuum lines are some of the common issues that could trigger this code.
Thanks for the info

it’s not sucking air from any boots or oring surfaces …..the p0069 is only being generated at shutdown..at shutdown the throttle body plate close..the location of the pusher egr tube connection near the map sensor results in a vacuume passing across the map and that is verified by the. Videos and the idash cel logs which shows the p0069 is being generated at zero rpm. An air leak or sucking related generation of the p0069 would indicate an rpm in the idash cel log and it never does.

I wish it were a leak or a sucking of air at a mating surface as that would be easy to fix.


all mating surfaces have been torqued to include the tbolt band clamps.

In a stock intake the egr pipe does not connect near the map sensor.



the ebp is new and it measures correctly.


and yes, there is a difference between the map and the baro at shut down ….see the videos .
 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
that’s a good gig if you have that.

i have a 7/125 warranty and have never been able to use it….its always no appts for 2 or 3 months 100 miles radius …and when you do get an appt, They reschedule 90 days out at the last minute a few times then ultimately just cancel.

i have changed drive shaft, two batteries, egr valve, throttle body, map, IAT, mass air flow, ox, ebp, all on my dime .
So you're saying that ALL the dealers in your area, 100 miles out, CANNOT get your truck in for service in under 60 to 90 days?? WOW... What a waste of money to pay for that warranty, I had the same one, AND not be able to use it... I'm thinking too many people jammed in the tri-state area and not enough dealers... Mind blown.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
So you're saying that ALL the dealers in your area, 100 miles out, CANNOT get your truck in for service in under 60 to 90 days?? WOW... What a waste of money to pay for that warranty, I had the same one, AND not be able to use it... I'm thinking too many people jammed in the tri-state area and not enough dealers... Mind blown.

yes….

i had to go to pa from nyc to get work done and that was a 30 day wait.


im pretty much planning to do as much as I can myself.


i can bash the ford extended warranty becuase i bought it and i have nothing good to say about it.


 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 12:43 PM
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Surprised that the largest city in the US cannot repair your truck in a timely manner. I said it before and I'll say it again... Time for a Ford Ranger or whatever they can repair in that city.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
Surprised that the largest city in the US cannot repair your truck in a timely manner. I said it before and I'll say it again... Time for a Ford Ranger or whatever they can repair in that city.
yes…it’s a racket….i even walked into my local ford and walked up to three service reps and asked for help to get an appt when my charging system kept saying service charging system now ….they told me they can only book oil change type service appts at the counter and repair type appts have to go thru the 800 number.

 
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Old Jul 14, 2024 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
Also

i I am almost ready to throw this pusher intake over the fence.

this is the one I am going with next. It keeps the stock lower egr assembly so egr behavior is stock.





im at the point where the pusher intake is probally fine for 11 thru 16’s it I think the 17’s and up have extra pcm emissions calculations and that’s to why im getting haunted with this p0069 code. Everytime i reset the code my emissions goes to not ready and i cant pass emissions inspection.
This is on my radar and has been. I'm even thinking of looking into thermal ceramic coatings to insulate the HSM upper and factory lower from the heat of the turbo and engine, if I did that... Just a brainstorm for now though.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 09:34 PM
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How long did you have your Pusher Intake on before you started having issues? I’ve got all the Pusher goodies on my ‘22 with no issues yet. Probably got about 3-4k on the DCS and Pusher stuff. Hopefully it’s dialed in for the 2020+ trucks but your issues make me a little nervous since we have tons of the same mods.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2024 | 10:11 PM
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The p0069 happened right away.

i had an annual emissions inspection coming up so i took the pusher off and put stock back on to pass inspection. No p0969.

i left a review on the pusher web site about the p0969 and i was contacted to see if pusher could help so i put it ba k on and p0069 came back.

pusher couldn’t figure out what was happening and I started some mods to work around the problem. Remove the map oring, drill a hole in the throttle body plate, and the latest is the nylon machine screw to prevent the throttle plate from closing all the way.


if I crack the gears inside the throttle body becuase of the machine screw, my next step is to take the pusher off and get one of the intakes that keeps the stock lower half. Or if I can get a 2020 top half I might go for that becuase my main driver was to get rid of the 11 thru 19 plastic upper half madness.

if you have the pusher intake on and no codes yet, you probally are good…there is just something spooky about my truck.

 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 05:58 AM
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pusher intakes are known to do this, so much so that my sister's diesel shop refuses to use the pushers on any of the trucks they service.

the bulk being Fords.

That is why I avoided it.

I really like the looks of it but there is something about the design and airflow that is off a bit.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz

the only thing i know for sure..aside from all this map data….is that if I put the stock intake back on (plastic top and aluminum bottom) no p0069 codes.

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^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^

It would seem that the ECM does not like the way the Pusher Intake feeds the intake and must effect sensor readings. I think the fact that removing the Pusher intake, which the code started after install, then re-installing the stock intake which you said resolved the code, I think you're on to something....

As for customer service, it actually sucks that they only thing they did was say "Interesting..." and did nothing else. While I understand you have other mods on the truck, but were you good before the Pusher Intake install? (but I do remember you having an issue with the SPE CAC cold pipe ports positioning with the methanol injectors, which you figured out)...

If I were you, I'd run the stock intake, with the Banks stuff up and running, with methanol injection going, and if you no longer have a P0069 code, you know the Pusher was the problem.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
pusher intakes are known to do this, so much so that my sister's diesel shop refuses to use the pushers on any of the trucks they service.

the bulk being Fords.

That is why I avoided it.

I really like the looks of it but there is something about the design and airflow that is off a bit.
So you're saying the P0069 code is common on the 6.7 Powerstrokes after Pusher intake installs? Wow.... thanks Scott...
 
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Old Jul 17, 2024 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Overkill2
So you're saying the P0069 code is common on the 6.7 Powerstrokes after Pusher intake installs? Wow.... thanks Scott...
very common for them to throw the code as there is something in the design that needs reworked.
 
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