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Old May 21, 2024 | 05:06 PM
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Dana M235 Fluid Change

I hadn't seen much on maintenance for the new Dana M235 9.25" front axle. I did fluid changes on both of my F350's axles today so I figured I'd share a couple pics from the new Dana.

Bottom line is that it's just like every other axle fluid change but the reusable gasket is a game changer (despite Ram using them on their AAMs since at least 2003).


Heavy flow of OEM fluid coming from the fill hole. Not under-filled from the factory on mine.




As expected, the front Dana was really clean. The fill plug was not magnetic, and note the sealing surfaces of the reusable gasket... way more substantial than the 11.6" Sterling's gasket.




The guts. There's a pretty significant pool of gear oil in the bottom of the pumpkin. I swabbed it out to get as much of the OE fluid out as possible. Right at 2.5 quarts went back in (Amsoil Severe Gear 80W-90).




By contrast, the 11.6 bolts were way easier to remove, the gasket was chincy, the cover seemed flimsy, and no oil flowed from the fill plug. The plug had a good bit of wear particles collected and the fluid was a good bit dirtier, also as expected.


11.6 fill plug.


 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 04:30 AM
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How many miles are on it?
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 06:05 AM
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How many miles are on it?
17.5k

I mostly just wanted to ensure fluid levels were good and break-in contaminants were out. Will probably change again at 50k, and then every 50k from then on.
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 11:39 AM
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Sounds good! I did my 2018 at around 25k (rear axle). I’ll probably do my ‘24 around then too.
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 02:24 PM
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OP,
Thanks for sharing...

My '12 with 285k miles still has the factory lube in the front axle. The axle is bone dry externally, but should probably at least check the fluid level and top off if required.
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks for sharing...

My '12 with 285k miles still has the factory lube in the front axle. The axle is bone dry externally, but should probably at least check the fluid level and top off if required.


My OCD is currently pegging...
 
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Old May 22, 2024 | 07:23 PM
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My OCD is currently pegging...
I know sounds terrible doesn't it ... but in my case the only time I use 4 wheel drive is when driving on wet dirt roads on my hunting property or pulling out of a slippery boat ramp. All other times the rotating assembly is not moving (2wd mode). So I estimate I use my 4 wheel drive ~10% of the time which is ~28k total miles. I think the factory lube is still pristine

We have a 2002 7.3PSD Super Duty that used for farm work and I can guarantee it still has the factory lube in the front diff. Probably still has factory lube in the rear diff too. A 2005 Dodge 5.9 cummins with ~500k miles and most likely original lube in both diffs, although it's on its 2nd transmission
 
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Old May 24, 2024 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
I know sounds terrible doesn't it ... but in my case the only time I use 4 wheel drive is when driving on wet dirt roads on my hunting property or pulling out of a slippery boat ramp. All other times the rotating assembly is not moving (2wd mode). So I estimate I use my 4 wheel drive ~10% of the time which is ~28k total miles. I think the factory lube is still pristine
It will probably turn back into a dinosaur before you wear out the add pack.

The fluid that came out of my M256 was nasty, truck had definitely spent some time in and around stagnate water. Oddly enough the gear oil in the rear end didn't seem as bad.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2024 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kry226
Bottom line is that it's just like every other axle fluid change but the reusable gasket is a game changer (despite Ram using them on their AAMs since at least 2003
My current 2015 Ram 2500 has the 9.25" AAM front and 11.5" AAM rear. They didn't come with reusable gaskets. They both had black RTV sealer on them.

Trading the Ram in on a new F-250 Monday.

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Old Aug 14, 2024 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by NYH1
My current 2015 Ram 2500 has the 9.25" AAM front and 11.5" AAM rear. They didn't come with reusable gaskets. They both had black RTV sealer on them.

Trading the Ram in on a new F-250 Monday.

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originally that truck would of had nice reusable gaskets. sounds like some ****** has been into the diffs and spooged rtv all over
 
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Old Aug 14, 2024 | 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
originally that truck would of had nice reusable gaskets. sounds like some ****** has been into the diffs and spooged rtv all over
Yup. My 2004 2500 Cummins (2nd year of the 3rd gen) had reusable gaskets on both diffs and the tranny. They were stout too.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2024 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by willynilly
originally that truck would of had nice reusable gaskets. sounds like some ****** has been into the diffs and spooged rtv all over
I bought the truck brand new and did all the diff fluid changes myself, like the rest of the fluids. Both the front and rear diff's came with black RTV on them from the factory.

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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NYH1
I bought the truck brand new and did all the diff fluid changes myself, like the rest of the fluids. Both the front and rear diff's came with black RTV on them from the factory.

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then you must have a golden unicorn. never have i seen one of them trucks with rtv. nor have i ever heard of one with rtv. except yours i guess
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 04:26 AM
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then you must have a golden unicorn. never have i seen one of them trucks with rtv. nor have i ever heard of one with rtv. except yours i guess
Have owned many Chevy, Dodge and Ford trucks and have yet to see RTV used at the diff cover.
BUT I've never pulled the cover for a fluid change, so perhaps it was neatly done in conjunction with the gasket.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2024 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Kellem
Have owned many Chevy, Dodge and Ford trucks and have yet to see RTV used at the diff cover.
BUT I've never pulled the cover for a fluid change, so perhaps it was neatly done in conjunction with the gasket.
My father's old 2000, my old 2002 and my current 2019 all had RTV sealed diffs front and rear. My 04.5 Dodge had gaskets front and rear.

Next time I do the diffs on my 2019 I will probably throw some lube locker gaskets on it.
 
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