It's easy to laugh at $60,000 PER for fleet buyers and most likely add another $10,000 for a contract of 100 vehicles per.
Sure Industry standards have to be harsher due to difficult usages, daily over us daily drivers.

 

I wsa just responding to your post where you brought up Hybrids

Originally Posted by twobelugas
Simple: if what you claimed was the case for F250s and up trucks, there should be viable hybrid or ev options for class 2B and up trucks by now.

 

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From what I'm hearing the F150 Power Boost hybrid makes worse fuel economy than an equivalent 3.5 EB powered truck when towing. If this is truly a fact, not sure how a hybrid technology would work in a Super Duty that tow's a lot. Again want to stress this may or maynot be accurate.

 

I remember seeing TFL Truck review a GM HD truck equipped with this unit and really like the concept, but been crickets since then.

 

Yes, it has been crickets. It's not hard to imagine why, anything is possible in a small batch and enough subsidy from the government, but once they try to scale production and stand on its own merit. they probably ran into a combination of issues involving cost, durability, and performance of the set up.

What people don't always remember is that the motors EVs use are all very susceptible to heat damage when operated outside of their design parameters. The prevalence of single speed gearboxes means at the low end the electric motors are always being, for the lack of better word, "lugged". That is okay if the weight of the vehicle stays relatively stable between empty and loaded, but once you expect a motor to propel a vehicle whose weight can fluctuate between say 7000 lbs and 37000 lbs, you are gonna have problems. I think eventually they will need to implement a multi speed gear box set up to make heavy towing and hauling feasible, otherwise they have to use a motor-battery set up to accomodate the heaviest possible GCWR which would then make the truck exceedingly expensive, as well as unwieldy when not fully loaded to drive and live with.

 

I'm not sure but I don't believe these motors can sustain field shunting for higher speeds / 2 speeds. It would seem a motor for each wheel would be the power supply solution most likely. All motors get direct access to full current flow capabilities. Controlling each motors torque thru the current flow control Modules...& the Control Circuit boards. Your accelerator position asks for power and the Control Boards respond. Obviously, Cowboy kicking would be sort of stupid way to ruin stuff early. But you know the advertisement show how the torque is so great by towing extremely heavy loads and running the 1/4 mile is just seconds. Sure, it's the totally wrong way to teach EV drivers to have great outcomes. The operational end it all is for the load to push the vehicle downhill thus Regen occurs, basically controlled by power diodes. Need controlled power up hill, level and gain power downhill, slowing for curves, stoplights that sort of stuff. Basically its a different animal from what the current Regen Generation-Populatin is trained for.

Most likely purchasing the right size of motors / power supplies / Power control systems is paramount to good outcomes. 1/4 quarter Horsepower, ain't going to pull a Big Horse far.

I'm pretty sure these systems have heat sensor technology to cut the power supplies if overheating is near. The driver most likely gets a warning to slow or pullover soon. You know
overloading would cause a voltage drop and current heat increasing blinking light most likely. I had a career with power control devices in Material Handling equipment but see no
way that the EV can fill my long mileage needs for now. That being said I would fully welcome them when they will meet my range needs if ever that happens.. 450 - 500 miles to charge.

 

Like I said before, if it was viable, we would see multiple offerings by now. Until then, it's all just tax payer funded experiments.

 

It may end up sort of like the Wrong brothers building the first flier.
Some Crashing is paramount to advancing the stuff most likely.
Then the Wright Bros. will make the leap of faith to sort of success.
I yet to see Elon's Pickup on the Expressways here with millions of people
and 100'000's of vehicles. Beat em to the punch sometimes have lessons to learn.

To put all of what I have said into a realistic setting my 390 66 GTA 390 Holley got a set 170 - 200 miles and you better be setting in a gas station or very close.
My 454 Bow Tie pickup with dual Tanks, 10 MPG, you better be setting in a gas station at 390 miles. But they were daily 40 mile drivers.

 

Did you really just insult the Wright Brothers by calling them the Wrong Brothers? I vote to ban you from ever flying on an airplane 👩‍✈️

 

The Wright's did make the Catapult so they could fly anytime anywhere.
Never hear much about their bicycles though.
Ya know the last time I flew it was in a private plane $ very rough.
Felt like an apple in one mt bucket on a bicycle handles bar.

 

I’ve got 3,000 hours and wife has 2,000 hours as pilot in command. This was taken be me in our last plane, tooling along at 180 mph. I’m in right seat and wife is pilot this trip. Only way to fly.

 

I'm thinking that adding a gas generator into the bed of the Lightening extends its usable light load range significantly. Most likely a Charger Module to twin stack with the trucks would work well.
Put a Chain Hoist in the garage to lift it in and out of the Box as needed. Sort of like the Generator with RVs for campers or like the plug in at Hurricane weather homes.