No more shenanigans. The shop today did an awesome job. Earned my business from here on out. Opened a fleet account there for future use. Very impressed.

 

My post was in fun as well, no offence taken.

 

Nice, I have the same yokos on my 19, i like em.

 

I like them so far. Granted only a few miles on them. Pretty well road manners for an MT.

 

There is a lot of BS and deliberate stupidity going on in the auto industry. I know two shops near me that are very easily influenced by it.

I'll never forget walking into the Cavalier Ford parts counter in Virginia Beach/Chesapeake and there are 4 jokers standing around messaging one another. You might be there a while before one of them looks up. Some days they'll tell you straight up before you even ask, they probably don't carry the part you need anymore.

 

i know its stupid but be leave it or not changing your tire size like changing rear end gear ratios can and usually is an epa violation, so alot of shops will refuse to keep clear of that legal issues

 

By the grace of God I live where we have freedom still. The state used to force EPA inspections but once it was clear the system was corrupt and didn’t work towards cleaning the environment up we got rid of it. God bless the USA and the great state of Ohio.

 

I don't believe it. Can you post your source for this?

Tire shops such as Americas/Discount tire, Costco and others have policies that don't allow them to install a tire with a lower load rating, or a width tire not suggested for the wheel width, some won't install a tire over a certain % larger than the factory size. None of that has anything to do with EPA, all trying to limit liability from what could be a safety concern.

It looks like the OP's shop was not exactly unwilling, but oddly enough, not capable haha.

 

Maybe a little of both. When a grown man starts explaining why they can’t do something my eyes glaze over. I’m a self employed construction worker of 30 plus years and a certified country boy. In my eyes nothing is impossible if you want it.

 

I can post many sources that verify the validity of the concept that installing the wrong tire type on certain trucking applications would indeed subject owners and operators to violations of emissions regulations in California.

As can be expected, regulations are often convoluted and complex, but in a succinct summary sentence, they basically apply to tractor trailers that are 53' or longer, which are required to have Low Rolling Resistance Tires, that are EPA SmartWay certified.

https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default...w_web_pres.pdf
https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/our-work/prog...nhouse-gas-ghg


So the concept is valid, but is not applicable to light trucks like pickups, and is not applicable nationwide (although it could eventually be).

If a tire shop employee who mentioned the EPA is in California, and that employee went through any kind of training over the last 14 years since this regulation was initially phased in, or the last 7 years when this regulation matured into full force and effect, then it could be that the employee was conflating the applicability of this concept as being one of many reasons (including liability) why some tire shops may no longer deviate too far, if at all, from OEM tire specifications.

While none of that is relevant to the Super Duty (yet), I just wanted to point out that the concept is not made up... it is actually happening. Just not everywhere, nor on every vehicle.

 

California lol

 

So, the EPA wants "low rolling resistance" tires cuz "the environment" but doesn't do **** to force truckers to pick up their shredded tires off the highway. I couldn't even count how many shredded 18 wheeler tires I've had to dodge on the highways in the last year. Not counting the ones on the side of roads.

 

Hopefully r1mcdonald will come back around to read that.

I didn't necessarily think he made it up, but I also didn't believe it to be true in the context of this thread either. It turns out what he posted was a bit of an overstatement. Even though as you say, not relevant to the Super Duty, thank you for sharing that info anyway.