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Can someone tell me if this leaf spring looks right? To me, it looks like there is something missing.
It doesn’t seem like the top stack of springs, do anything except for act as a spacer.
What is this on?
that looks like someone tried to put overload springs on it, but did not install the frame blocks.
see where something was welded on and then removed the 4 holes below it that forms a v pattern is where the blocks (stops)would have been mounted.
I don't have a picture of the correct setup, but someone on here probably does.
That looks normal for a truck that was either ordered with OEM overloads or x2 some one added them. X2 yes the back "frame block" or bump stop for the rear over load spring is NOT there. And the front one, or what is left looks to be torched off. When those were a OEM ordered item the frame block/bump stop were riveted on.
I would guess that the previous put them on himself since the U bolts are over torqued to the point that they all 4 are bent and then he double nutted them.
What is this on?
that looks like someone tried to put overload springs on it, but did not install the frame blocks.
see where something was welded on and then removed the 4 holes below it that forms a v pattern is where the blocks (stops)would have been mounted.
I don't have a picture of the correct setup, but someone on here probably does.
It’s on a 1974 F250 4x4 Crew Cab short bed.
My guess is this is the leaf spring was factory, but who knows. Everything else on the truck is pretty much stock. Maybe a po got tired of the stiff ride?
That looks normal for a truck that was either ordered with OEM overloads or x2 some one added them. X2 yes the back "frame block" or bump stop for the rear over load spring is NOT there. And the front one, or what is left looks to be torched off. When those were a OEM ordered item the frame block/bump stop were riveted on.
I would guess that the previous put them on himself since the U bolts are over torqued to the point that they all 4 are bent and then he double nutted them.
Thanks for the picture. I’m guessing that these were ordered stock or there wouldn’t have been the bump stops that had to be cut off. Now I have to figure out how to fix it. It won’t be used for hauling so this many springs it’s overkill.
So you have a High boy and 2 1/4 wide rear leaves, versus the normal 3" wide. With the truck properly supported and the rear suspension in full droop (NO weight) and also have the tires/rims off, to be able to have it even lower. But up enough to have a floor jack under the center of the axle. Then just cut the old u bolts off and remove the overloads, then get new shorter u bolts and put it back together.
Make note of how the leaf spring top plate is positioned. You can get the 180* out and then they bend easy when you tighten the u bolts.
LOL, someone bolted a whole nother spring pack, with the spring eyes cut of, onto the original pack, probably to act as an overload. Looks like a farrmer upgrade. Without any bump pads to interact with they aren't doing anything now..literally nothing, they aren't adding any stiffness to the spring pack under them and they aren't holding any load, they're just dead weight. That much extra unsprung weight is gonna make for a real crappy ride.
LOL, someone bolted a whole nother spring pack, with the spring eyes cut of, onto the original pack, probably to act as an overload. Looks like a farrmer upgrade. Without any bump pads to interact with they aren't doing anything now..literally nothing, they aren't adding any stiffness to the spring pack under them and they aren't holding any load, they're just dead weight. That much extra unsprung weight is gonna make for a real crappy ride.
My FIL did that on his '77 F-250 4x4, but he also carried cab roof high loads of firewood out of the woods. He used a set of cut down car springs, but only 3 or 4 leaves.
On a trailer I made from a wrecked '79 F-150 after removing the pinion, flipping the axle, and I just inserted the extra three leaves in the original stack, and since no spacer were used, I reused the U-bolts. It was a trailer, had a drop tongue and winch tower set up
Well, the way i see it this is someone from the old school did this,,, very popular back in the day.
The upper stack is added to cary excessive weight.
The way it is supposed to be installed, the upper stack should have a fabricated bracket formed like a U made from 1/4 inch flat which is attached to the lower stack.
As the main leaf stack is compressed, the bracket makes contact with the upper stack thus almost doubling the load as they are compressed.
I personally used a setup I made like this in the late 70's early 80's. The truck will ride as normal with this setup, compared to havind the double stack constant, which is a hard ride.
You do have to be careful as it is very easy to overload the rear as the truck will not squat much as you load it up..
Hope this kinda makes sense, sorta hard to explain in writing..
Alex
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