Ranger torque splitter
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Good luck finding one used just like the Gear Venders OD used.
It comes down to being in the right place at the right time.
I take it you reached out to them to see if they are making them again.
If not it lets them know people still want them.
Other wise it is only GV OD unit you can get new.
I got one of the last ones made just as Covid hit and had to wait longed than the normal time for it but well worth it in my book.
It did not help on the MPG as I got the same MPG with out the splitter and T18 that I get with the splitter and NP435 nothing else changed.
I have a 300 six that makes power in the low RPM range and with the 2.75 rear gear works pretty good for me.
Dave ----
It comes down to being in the right place at the right time.
I take it you reached out to them to see if they are making them again.
If not it lets them know people still want them.
Other wise it is only GV OD unit you can get new.
I got one of the last ones made just as Covid hit and had to wait longed than the normal time for it but well worth it in my book.
It did not help on the MPG as I got the same MPG with out the splitter and T18 that I get with the splitter and NP435 nothing else changed.
I have a 300 six that makes power in the low RPM range and with the 2.75 rear gear works pretty good for me.
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I'm in the same boat. I have a 300 6 that I'm going to put to work. No, it's not some 500+ hp diesel but I can work on it if it breaks down and 60-65 is fast enough when loaded for me. I'm looking over h@ll an half of Georgia trying to find one!!. I lucked out and found a couple of F250s cheap so i do have a few parts to trade on. If you hear of one let me know!!
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Will do ifI hear of one.
I know the Gear Vender OD is bucks but once over 30 MPH you can split the gears on it also.
BTW empty I only split 3rd to 4th and then OD in 4th.
Other ratios are to close together to split when empty and have not pulled the club trailer much to feel it out with the splitter.
Also if going to fast in granny first and try to split it the OD unit grinds.
Starting out in granny OD and shift to 2nd OD and then 3rd direct pulling the club trailer has worked so far with the 2.75 rear gear.
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I know the Gear Vender OD is bucks but once over 30 MPH you can split the gears on it also.
BTW empty I only split 3rd to 4th and then OD in 4th.
Other ratios are to close together to split when empty and have not pulled the club trailer much to feel it out with the splitter.
Also if going to fast in granny first and try to split it the OD unit grinds.
Starting out in granny OD and shift to 2nd OD and then 3rd direct pulling the club trailer has worked so far with the 2.75 rear gear.
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Use this search engine to find a Bullnose trucks in your area. One of them might have a GV unit or torque splitter.
http://www.car-part.com/
A coworker of mine found a C6 GV unit for his Mercury Cougar in a salvage yard.
http://www.car-part.com/
A coworker of mine found a C6 GV unit for his Mercury Cougar in a salvage yard.
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The M5-OD dose not have the granny first and no where near bullet proof like the T18 / NP435, Dont think the T19 has as deep first gear as the other 2 transmissions and no over drive.
Maybe a ZF5 but I also dont think the first is deep and they can be hard to come by, at least for me when looking.
Or are you thinking of one of the newer transmissions like a NV4500?
We are then talking an adapter to bolt it to the motor and the need to deal with a clutch setup that will work.
So what should he look at for a transmission with a granny first and over drive.
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Three gearing options were available for the Ford T19. The T19 was available with a 6.32:1 first gear. These were only in rarer Ford 500-800 series HD trucks. The very most common T19 available in Ford applications was the T19A with the 4:02:1 first gear ratio. For two years (documented from 1983-1986+) there was a Ford T19 option with a 5.11:1 first gear. All ratios listed had a synchronized first.
We've learned that the 1983 to 1986 Ford T19's, as installed behind the 460 and diesel typically had the 4.02:1 first gear in a 2wd application, or a diesel 4wd application. However, 5.11 versions are reported also for these. The 460 4wd truck got the 6.32:1 first gear, purportedly from 1983 to 1986 F250's.
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We've learned that the 1983 to 1986 Ford T19's, as installed behind the 460 and diesel typically had the 4.02:1 first gear in a 2wd application, or a diesel 4wd application. However, 5.11 versions are reported also for these. The 460 4wd truck got the 6.32:1 first gear, purportedly from 1983 to 1986 F250's.
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Ok so you have to hunt for a T19 with a 6.32 granny first again good luck.
Also I dont see the need for a synchronize first gear as you are going so slow any way just stop and put it in granny first and start again.
Also the T19 is not an over drive transmission that the OP is looking to add to his NP435 transmission with the Range splitter.
A lot depends on how you will be using the truck and in my case the granny and add on over drive was the way to go.
I got really really lucky to get my splitter when I did or I would be SOL
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Also I dont see the need for a synchronize first gear as you are going so slow any way just stop and put it in granny first and start again.
Also the T19 is not an over drive transmission that the OP is looking to add to his NP435 transmission with the Range splitter.
A lot depends on how you will be using the truck and in my case the granny and add on over drive was the way to go.
I got really really lucky to get my splitter when I did or I would be SOL
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I have a gear vendor that I bought for a 1985 Ford C6 brand new in the box open the box just to look inside never used it still have it can't figure out what I'm going to do with it yet.The build It was on my custom built trailer with my frame my whole build my trailer is gone for almost a year now so I lost all my build but I had the gear vendor in a separate place. Was so excited about this truck with c6 6/9 bullnose.
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I have a gear vendor that I bought for a 1985 Ford C6 brand new in the box open the box just to look inside never used it still have it can't figure out what I'm going to do with it yet.The build It was on my custom built trailer with my frame my whole build my trailer is gone for almost a year now so I lost all my build but I had the gear vendor in a separate place. Was so excited about this truck with c6 6/9 bullnose.
The big thing I did not like about the GV was the cost it was 2x+ what the Range Splitter was and I am vary cheap LOL
The other was it would only shift into over drive if going over 30 MPH and I wanted to be able to split granny if I wanted / needed to.
Some have bypassed this part but because the GV works like an auto transmission it needs to be spinning fast enough (30 MPH) to get the pump pumping good to hold it in OD from what I have seen posted.
Being GV is the only player in add on over drive units unless you can find used Range Splitters (or GV unit) that is all you got
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With different GV adapters you can fit it to a lot of different auto and manual transmissions.
The big thing I did not like about the GV was the cost it was 2x+ what the Range Splitter was and I am vary cheap LOL
The other was it would only shift into over drive if going over 30 MPH and I wanted to be able to split granny if I wanted / needed to.
Some have bypassed this part but because the GV works like an auto transmission it needs to be spinning fast enough (30 MPH) to get the pump pumping good to hold it in OD from what I have seen posted.
Being GV is the only player in add on over drive units unless you can find used Range Splitters (or GV unit) that is all you got
Dave ----
The big thing I did not like about the GV was the cost it was 2x+ what the Range Splitter was and I am vary cheap LOL
The other was it would only shift into over drive if going over 30 MPH and I wanted to be able to split granny if I wanted / needed to.
Some have bypassed this part but because the GV works like an auto transmission it needs to be spinning fast enough (30 MPH) to get the pump pumping good to hold it in OD from what I have seen posted.
Being GV is the only player in add on over drive units unless you can find used Range Splitters (or GV unit) that is all you got
Dave ----
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Short of replacing the transmission with another with lock up you are stuck with what you got.
It that case I would look at what the GV cost is, and a new trans with lock up and the parts needed to make it work, less drive shaft as both would need a new drive shaft.
It might not be that much more and you get lock up converter to help with MPG and less heat.
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You know the other thing they say of adding over drive (GV) to an auto with non-lock up converter like the C6 is it makes the converter slip more and that causes more heat so a large(r) cooler should be added / used on top of the factory cooler in the radiator.
Short of replacing the transmission with another with lock up you are stuck with what you got.
It that case I would look at what the GV cost is, and a new trans with lock up and the parts needed to make it work, less drive shaft as both would need a new drive shaft.
It might not be that much more and you get lock up converter to help with MPG and less heat.
Dave ----
Short of replacing the transmission with another with lock up you are stuck with what you got.
It that case I would look at what the GV cost is, and a new trans with lock up and the parts needed to make it work, less drive shaft as both would need a new drive shaft.
It might not be that much more and you get lock up converter to help with MPG and less heat.
Dave ----