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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 02:34 PM
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Plenums to far gone?


What do you think? Can I straighten this up and put a riffraff insert in it or am I changing Plenum at this point
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 02:57 PM
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Mark 9:23.

for all things are possible to those who believe.

If it was me. I would believe.

Having done the plenum reseal if it is at all avoidable I would.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 03:00 PM
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agreed. if you can GENTLY straighten them enough to get the inserts in, i would go that route.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 03:57 PM
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Holy hol-e.

Don't take this as gospel, but try using two things:

1. A short piece of iron pipe, not threaded, and with the weld seam filed down using a half-round file, whose inside diameter matches the final desired outside diameter of the plenum orifice.

2. An exhaust pipe expander, sized in a range between the shortest deformed diameter in the present state, to the final desired diameter in the finished state.

Don't use #2 without first having #1 on hand, as #1 will restrict #2 from distorting the "good" arc of the orifice, as an unintended consequence of pushing against the inner "peaks" of the deformed part of the orifice, which may, as a result of the direction of the deformed tube wall acting like a gusset at each kink, be more resistant to correction than the non-kinked portion of the tube wall.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 04:32 PM
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That there is a well thought out plan.

Id’a gone at it with a ball peen hammer and a dollie on a wing and a prayer.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Y2KW57
Holy hol-e.

Don't take this as gospel, but try using two things:

1. A short piece of iron pipe, not threaded, and with the weld seam filed down using a half-round file, whose inside diameter matches the final desired outside diameter of the plenum orifice.

2. An exhaust pipe expander, sized in a range between the shortest deformed diameter in the present state, to the final desired diameter in the finished state.

Don't use #2 without first having #1 on hand, as #1 will restrict #2 from distorting the "good" arc of the orifice, as an unintended consequence of pushing against the inner "peaks" of the deformed part of the orifice, which may, as a result of the direction of the deformed tube wall acting like a gusset at each kink, be more resistant to correction than the non-kinked portion of the tube wall.
do you think I should take some pliers and try to straighten them some first
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jamon Norton
do you think I should take some pliers and try to straighten them some first

Maybe some long nose vice grip pliers.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 07:52 PM
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If you can get a small ball pen hammer and smack the bad parts, then follow by some skinny needle nose pliers to slowly bend it close to a round shape.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 09:41 PM
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Order up the plenum reinforcements and use needle nose pliers you can get it done just have to be good enough to start the insert….same problem happened on my truck was the extra cost for taking it to a shop lol
 
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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 10:14 PM
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Yeah kinda crazy this damage was done by an ase certified shop…. This is like reason 20 that I am done taking my trucks to a shop
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamon Norton
Yeah kinda crazy this damage was done by an ase certified shop…. This is like reason 20 that I am done taking my trucks to a shop
Now that is some gospel. Why pay someone to tear up my truck when I'm perfectly capable of doing that myself.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 09:41 AM
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I'll just chime in here and say that a pair of compound pliers have plenty of strength to squeeze that tin back into good enough shape without having to use hammers and brute force. Just take your time to get them round enough to get some plenum inserts in there and then use the hammer and a block of wood to seat them down.
https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/rdp-p...serts-99-5-03/


 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 09:52 AM
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And as far as compound pliers go, I've never found a better set than the pricey ones at Snap-on tools. At the time of this posting, cost is $89.25. But they work so well that I have three of them and never reach for any others unless I need to do electrical crimping or sheet metal cutting or something that requires a tool of a different speciality. These just cannot be beat for how well they grip and don't require the strength of a gorilla to get the job done.
https://shop.snapon.com/product/Plie...(Red)/HL138ACP
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 03:19 PM
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Damn you Kwikk. Pliers ordered. Unplanned purchase made.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2024 | 04:14 PM
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Inserts are ordered and should be in tomorrow…. Idk if I will have time to mess with it tomorrow might be a couple days before I do, but sure hope this works not looking forward to changing the plenums
 
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