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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 02:01 AM
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Cold weather normal operating temp

2021 F350 6.7 DRW CC. 46 k on the clock. On the morning ride into work today, engine coolant temp achieved 178 F degrees. About 47 miles; 50 to 55 minute ride. Was mostly surface streets with speeds around 40 to 45 mph. Last 10 miles were 70 mph freeway speeds. A faster way into work which is mostly freeway was not chosen this morning due to slow to crap-tastic traffic conditions. Was pretty chilly, with outdoor temp 22 F. Plugged in block heater before going to bed the night before. Have it on a timer, so block heater is on from 2 am to 6am. I can not recall what my normal operating temps were last winter, so not sure if something changed. No driveability or engine performance issue that I could tell. No CEL/MIL. Obviously, heater was not blasting me out like it does when operating at 195 to about 202 F which it generally is during warmer weather. What is your normal cold weather operating temp? Do you think I need a T stat?
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 05:16 AM
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Nothing wrong here. I would expect the same and have the same temps right now.

If you have the supplemental heater then put your heat on max and that may help a bit for a few miles.

Seat warmers is where it is at. They are hot within just a couple of minutes and as long as the backside is warm then It is easily tolerated till the cab gets warm.

You can always try the true and verified method of some card board in front of the radiator. I think there is room.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 05:33 AM
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I love the climate control system. When the family is riding along it's either HI max. or LO max for the temp. This truck will heat up or freeze you out.

At 22*F outside that's some cold air moving across the cooling system. As long as you are comfortable on the inside, don't stress the displayed operating temps. Find yourself an cardboard box, cut off a section to cover the radiator. Bet those temps displayed are going to go up a bit. I used to do that on my 6.0L which worked great to get the heat in the cab roasting.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by HotelFoMoCo
2021 F350 6.7 DRW CC. 46 k on the clock. On the morning ride into work today, engine coolant temp achieved 178 F degrees. About 47 miles; 50 to 55 minute ride. Was mostly surface streets with speeds around 40 to 45 mph. Last 10 miles were 70 mph freeway speeds. A faster way into work which is mostly freeway was not chosen this morning due to slow to crap-tastic traffic conditions. Was pretty chilly, with outdoor temp 22 F. Plugged in block heater before going to bed the night before. Have it on a timer, so block heater is on from 2 am to 6am. I can not recall what my normal operating temps were last winter, so not sure if something changed. No driveability or engine performance issue that I could tell. No CEL/MIL. Obviously, heater was not blasting me out like it does when operating at 195 to about 202 F which it generally is during warmer weather. What is your normal cold weather operating temp? Do you think I need a T stat?
Your truck should be at full operating temp during that drive.
The thermostat controls operating temps, and your truck should have been up to the t-stat opening point of about 195 degrees during your drive.
So, very well could be a bad t-stat, open when it should be closed.
Something to be concerned about, and keep an eye on.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 07:35 AM
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You have a two stage thermostat. First opens at 192° second valve opens at 202°

So you should see normal operating temps of 192°
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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Yep these trucks are COLD natured. Too much thermal efficiency built in to allow massive tow ratings, which results in miserable comfort in winter. Mine on a 20F morning will reach 150F coolant temp in about 15 minutes of driving, but then will struggle to reach 190 and may not ever reach 190 if I'm driving into a headwind. I've seen it take as much as 30 minutes of driving to start getting comfortable cabin temperatures. There's lots of threads and discussion on this.

Some trucks were ordered with the "Rapid Heat" option which adds to electric heater element inside the ductwork. That does seem to help some. But for some odd reason Ford did not install that on all the trucks. They made it an option. Odd....
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 07:59 AM
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Mine is pumping heat in no time even on the cold days. Benefit of a gasser.

The '16' dsl....well that's a different matter but then it doesn't get to awfully cold in Southern AZ.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by HotelFoMoCo
2021 F350 6.7 DRW CC. 46 k on the clock. On the morning ride into work today, engine coolant temp achieved 178 F degrees. About 47 miles; 50 to 55 minute ride. Was mostly surface streets with speeds around 40 to 45 mph. Last 10 miles were 70 mph freeway speeds. A faster way into work which is mostly freeway was not chosen this morning due to slow to crap-tastic traffic conditions. Was pretty chilly, with outdoor temp 22 F. Plugged in block heater before going to bed the night before. Have it on a timer, so block heater is on from 2 am to 6am. I can not recall what my normal operating temps were last winter, so not sure if something changed. No driveability or engine performance issue that I could tell. No CEL/MIL. Obviously, heater was not blasting me out like it does when operating at 195 to about 202 F which it generally is during warmer weather. What is your normal cold weather operating temp? Do you think I need a T stat?
Hmm... very similar circumstances for me, about 25*F at start up this morning but I didn't plug the truck in (won't do that until closer to zero and my block heater doesn't work, haven't figured out if the element is bad or the cord), drive about 1.5 miles for coffee, engine at high idle while I walk in and then a 46 mile 55 minute or so highway ride to work. Engine was at 192*F within 15 minutes and stayed above that until I shut it down. The cooling system on the 2020+ trucks I think is more aggressive and doesn't let the engine get as hot as the 2011-2019 trucks but I don't have an issue with cab heat even without the rapid electrical heater on my 2019.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 09:02 AM
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I am slightly less concerned about my comfort and more concerned about how the engine is operating. I do have the heated seats, but did not option the supplemental cab heater. I will definitely keep an eye on it. I do not exactly remember what my engine temps were last winter, but it general, the engine always seemed to run between about 195 to 205 F once it reached full normal operating temp. Additionally, I keep a very close eye my actual fuel mileage. I keep an electronic log on my phone recording miles traveled, gallons, cost. How much EDT and anti-gel I add. I noticed on yesterdays fill up my mileage dropped almost 2 mpg. But, could that be winter diesel blend? It’s supposed to be up to 40 F outside temp today on my drive back home. I will make sure to see where the engine coolant temp is
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 10:18 AM
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Driving I-80 in Northern Nevada during the winter, I never see my truck get up to 195. It's usually 185 to 187 after a considerable amount of time. If I drive to Elko and back home (40 mile round trip) I might see 160 or so, but it never heats up to 195 during the cold winter here unless I'm towing. Just not enough load on the truck.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HotelFoMoCo
I am slightly less concerned about my comfort and more concerned about how the engine is operating. I do have the heated seats, but did not option the supplemental cab heater. I will definitely keep an eye on it. I do not exactly remember what my engine temps were last winter, but it general, the engine always seemed to run between about 195 to 205 F once it reached full normal operating temp. Additionally, I keep a very close eye my actual fuel mileage. I keep an electronic log on my phone recording miles traveled, gallons, cost. How much EDT and anti-gel I add. I noticed on yesterdays fill up my mileage dropped almost 2 mpg. But, could that be winter diesel blend? It’s supposed to be up to 40 F outside temp today on my drive back home. I will make sure to see where the engine coolant temp is
If you have a couple thousand bucks laying around, there is an option that will cure both of those concerns. Your truck will reach full operating temp even on the coldest of days, AND you'll get cab heat fast.


 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 11:12 AM
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You need to restrict the airflow over the radiator like the big trucks do. Ford sells one that is fitted to the grill, it should have an adjustable opening in the center of it to open up/close off airflow.

As said above, with how much cooling these trucks have, they will struggle to get to full operating temperature if you either don't let them sit and warm up (need to get into high idle for a good 5-10 minutes) or put the 'blankie' on the front.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 11:27 AM
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Guys, he's only talking about ambient air temps down to 22 degrees, that is ABOVE ZERO, not 22 below.
OP's truck will hardly be affected by such temps, and should be achieving full operating temps within 10-12 minutes of driving.
OP is driving for nearly an hour and the engine temp still hasn't reached full temp, definitely not right.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 12:41 PM
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Silly me; thought the front of the truck has louvered section that opens or closes depending on the temps. Dawns on me that may be a remembrance from the F150. Before I go out to the shop to look... if no active grille shutter system on Superdutys, seems strange. If there are shutters - careful cramming cardboard in there.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Guys, he's only talking about ambient air temps down to 22 degrees, that is ABOVE ZERO, not 22 below.
OP's truck will hardly be affected by such temps, and should be achieving full operating temps within 10-12 minutes of driving.
OP is driving for nearly an hour and the engine temp still hasn't reached full temp, definitely not right.
Right, above zero. As I already mentioned, at 22 above zero my truck takes FOREVER to warm up and sometimes will never get to 190F water temp. It's inherent to the design of a diesel engine especially one that's got enormous coolers all over it. I remember in 2002 my father ordered a new Cummins H.O. chassis cab truck for work. EXCELLENT truck but on a cold day at a stop light you could literally watch the temp gauge fall.

I cannot imagine trying to even operate this 6.7 diesel at 22 BELOW zero. My goodness...
 
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