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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 08:37 AM
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These trucks will do a Active Regen every 500 miles regardless of the filter percentage. Unless you turn the Auto Regen off .
Since I tow a lot. my truck does a lot of Passive Regens. So I rarely get above 50-60% before I hit the 500 mile Active Regen.

It's all about how much soot you make vs how hot the EGTs are that create the passive regen. And it can vary by your driving style ( towing, empty, hot rodding,) by the fuel quality you buy ( winter summer cheap excellent) Probably also by any additives you put in the fuel to increase/improve combustion. Just a lot of variables that affect how much soot the DPF collects and when it needs to regen
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Painted Horse
These trucks will do a Active Regen every 500 miles regardless of the filter percentage. Unless you turn the Auto Regen off .
Since I tow a lot. my truck does a lot of Passive Regens. So I rarely get above 50-60% before I hit the 500 mile Active Regen.

It's all about how much soot you make vs how hot the EGTs are that create the passive regen. And it can vary by your driving style ( towing, empty, hot rodding,) by the fuel quality you buy ( winter summer cheap excellent) Probably also by any additives you put in the fuel to increase/improve combustion. Just a lot of variables that affect how much soot the DPF collects and when it needs to regen
Good point. I run 1oz of hotshot's secret in the tank on every fill-up too. As far as additives go, this is the best I've used, and it's simple. Walmart stocks it, and it fits in the door pocket perfectly. There are so many variables.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Painted Horse
These trucks will do a Active Regen every 500 miles regardless of the filter percentage. Unless you turn the Auto Regen off .
Since I tow a lot. my truck does a lot of Passive Regens. So I rarely get above 50-60% before I hit the 500 mile Active Regen.
Mine does not do regens at the 500(496) mile intervals since they did the PCM/TCM update reflash a few months ago, it will go to almost 900 miles sometimes now before it does a regen. And, it is never the same miles between regens now like it used to be, used to be every 496 miles.
And, this is only when running unloaded, when towing I never notice any active regen activity.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 10:48 AM
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Extended warranty is premium care which includes warranty.

And a question for any mods that may stroll by. I have had this truck since April of 2017. Original owner. If I include a tag line on my posts that include the list of issues that have never been taken care of in 6 years, will that get my posts deleted?

First issue. Wind noise from windshield when there were a lot of posts of the issue and ford was reseating the glass. Local Ford…Never heard of it. Second issue. The Mexico battery catastrophe. Both batteries where the battery posts would twist with your hand and argue with me that they had to keep the truck for 2 days to do a battery draw down test. Hey DUDE..you can twist the battery posts with your hand!! They replaced 1 battery, also imported and it failed not 1 year later where the voltage was low and causing weak starts. The DPF fluid heater lit up on the dash so I take it in. Local Ford.. we have to order the entire DPF fluid system to repair. Could be as much as a month. This was early 2018 mind you before all the availability issues. So I explain to them I think it’s a voltage issue and am ignored. So I go out and buy 2 batteries myself. Problem solved. Third issue. The heated and cooled passenger seat have NEVER worked in 6 years. Also requires another test that takes all day. Once again..DUDE.. your *** neither gets warm or cold. It doesn’t work. Ford again..we will have to order parts and call you. 5 years later..nothing. Have gone in for the carpet shield fire notice. Not done. The unintentional tail gate opening. Not done. All the trips are listed as unknown problem in Ford pass.
DPF is not covered under the extended warranty unless they changed it since the last time I looked. I too have an extended warranty and I am aware that the DPF is not covered.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 11:02 AM
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On later MY trucks, they reconfigured EGR/SCR so that more DEF is injected with less EGR use. This can also decrease the amount of soot the DPF holds since the DEF could be keeping it cleaner.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by First3Quarter
Have gone in for the carpet shield fire notice. Not done. The unintentional tail gate opening. Not done. All the trips are listed as unknown problem in Ford pass.
Those last 2 are surprising since they are safety recalls. I had to tell the dealer NOT to do the tailgate recall everytime I would go in otherwise they would try to add it to the service visit. They are usually pretty motivated to complete them. Are the recalls showing as not completed for your truck?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 11:32 AM
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DPF is not covered under the extended warranty unless they changed it since the last time I looked. I too have an extended warranty and I am aware that the DPF is not covered.
Well crap. Thought it was covered under emissions. Went to look and DPF is not named..
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 11:41 AM
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With ForScan I have added DPF Soot Level Monitoring to my Truck Info Screen on my 2022. I also have an iDash monitor. The two are always in-conflict with their soot load percentages. The iDash number is definitely tied to time/distance, whereas the in dash monitor is tied to another factor. On my Chevy, it was tied to pressure differentials between each end of the DPF. I'm not sure if it's the same on the PowerStroke. The iDash number will never slow or drop with passive regen. The in dash number does. When I tow my boat or camper, I can go 100's of miles without the in dash number increasing, and it often drops. The iDash number also never goes to zero after a regen. Regen "Activates" when the number soot number hits 100 on the iDash, and the number stays there until the regen is done, but then it's only down to 18-20. The in dash number will drop during regen, and stay at zero for quite some time. The iDash show regen "OFF" when the in-dash number hits 0.

In this pic, at the top of the iDash, it shows "OFF" or "ACT" for regen status at the top. The "42" toward the upper-left is the Soot Load %. On the in-dash monitor, you can see it reads 20% for the Exhaust Filter. I disable "Auto Regen" until the iDash is past 100, the in dash is closer to 90%, and I have at least 30 minutes of uninterrupted driving ahead of me. By managing it this way, I can go anywhere from 600-900 miles between regens, depending on my recent driving activity. (Local trips accumulate soot faster than road trips and/or towing.) I thought I had the most up-to-date software updates, but I'm certainly not seeing the distance increased between automatic regens that @Ltngdrvr is getting.




 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by The Peddler
With ForScan I have added DPF Soot Level Monitoring to my Truck Info Screen on my 2022. I also have an iDash monitor. The two are always in-conflict with their soot load percentages. The iDash number is definitely tied to time/distance, whereas the in dash monitor is tied to another factor. On my Chevy, it was tied to pressure differentials between each end of the DPF. I'm not sure if it's the same on the PowerStroke. The iDash number will never slow or drop with passive regen. The in dash number does. When I tow my boat or camper, I can go 100's of miles without the in dash number increasing, and it often drops. The iDash number also never goes to zero after a regen. Regen "Activates" when the number soot number hits 100 on the iDash, and the number stays there until the regen is done, but then it's only down to 18-20. The in dash number will drop during regen, and stay at zero for quite some time. The iDash show regen "OFF" when the in-dash number hits 0.

In this pic, at the top of the iDash, it shows "OFF" or "ACT" for regen status at the top. The "42" toward the upper-left is the Soot Load %. On the in-dash monitor, you can see it reads 20% for the Exhaust Filter. I disable "Auto Regen" until the iDash is past 100, the in dash is closer to 90%, and I have at least 30 minutes of uninterrupted driving ahead of me. By managing it this way, I can go anywhere from 600-900 miles between regens, depending on my recent driving activity. (Local trips accumulate soot faster than road trips and/or towing.) I thought I had the most up-to-date software updates, but I'm certainly not seeing the distance increased between automatic regens that @Ltngdrvr is getting.



So your iDash and cluster soot % dont agree? i guess i could chalk it up to inaccurate calculation. BTW, i do have soot monitor enabled. Thats how i knew the last 2 regens showed 75% when i was a reliable 100% for 6 years.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by First3Quarter
So your iDash and cluster soot % dont agree? i guess i could chalk it up to inaccurate calculation. BTW, i do have soot monitor enabled. Thats how i knew the last 2 regens showed 75% when i was a reliable 100% for 6 years.
The two have never matched. I believe the info the iDash is able to pull is sourced differently than what the cluster is reporting. The iDash is reporting % of miles until the 496 mile initiated regen, vs the cluster showing actual soot load, however it's calculated.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2023 | 04:25 PM
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There are a couple different Soot screens on the iDash. Mine reads 20% of the dash reading, so when the truck says full, the iDash is consistent and 80%. The other soot percentage screen on iDash acted like the post above, not reliable. After regen the soot is down to 4% consistently. If the regen happens to finish just before I can park, the iDash will go to zero as it continues baking when shut down and no flow to cool it off.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by acdii
There are a couple different Soot screens on the iDash. Mine reads 20% of the dash reading, so when the truck says full, the iDash is consistent and 80%. The other soot percentage screen on iDash acted like the post above, not reliable. After regen the soot is down to 4% consistently. If the regen happens to finish just before I can park, the iDash will go to zero as it continues baking when shut down and no flow to cool it off.
Generally, that is pretty common with most OEMs for regen strategy. They do that to create a buffer in case the regen does not light off. If it was actually at 100% soot load and the regen failed, it would most likely cause a domino affect of CEL, derate and shutdown as it would most likely soot overload.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by stroke250
Generally, that is pretty common with most OEMs for regen strategy. They do that to create a buffer in case the regen does not light off. If it was actually at 100% soot load and the regen failed, it would most likely cause a domino affect of CEL, derate and shutdown as it would most likely soot overload.

Actual soot load at 100% reading is more likely 80% or lower. When the dash says clean NOW it is more than likely at the 90% soot load, iDash will read 120%.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 05:18 PM
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The DPF at 100% on the dash is actually only 33% full. IDS will measure the DPF up to 300% and that is completely clogged. So at 100% on the dash it's far from being completely clogged.
 
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Old Nov 30, 2023 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
The DPF at 100% on the dash is actually only 33% full. IDS will measure the DPF up to 300% and that is completely clogged. So at 100% on the dash it's far from being completely clogged.
I get that. I was just trying to explain why they do that as they want a buffer.
 
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