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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 06:45 AM
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7.3 IDI - take two

After selling my trusty but pretty crusty '96 7.3 Powerstroke I've been searching for its replacement. Not particular to having a Powerstroke under the hood though it would be nice but rather particular on getting a clean OBS 7.3 diesel. Initially found a '93 f250 turbo but couldn't reach a deal. Another 7.3 popped up but w/o the turbo. It's much cleaner than the previous IDI.

If I would get the n/a IDI I'd definitely like to install the turbo.

- Does a 4" exhaust make sense on an IDI and will it require modifications to the cab firewall like it does on the 95-97 models?

- What would a professionally installed turbo cost approximately?

- What turbo kit is the best bang for the buck for the IDI?

- Looking for recommendations on a diesel specialist to handle turbo install in Southern California.

This would be my daily driver. I don't tow much except a bike or two but have several grades to overcome in the daily commute to work.
 
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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 02:19 PM
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Just came back from a test drive. Loved everything except for how heavy the clutch is. Frankly, wasn't expecting to get a leg press workout. I get that that's how they are but it's slated to be a daily driver and the clutch feel is a major factor. Is there a solution? I'm leaning towards getting the truck...
 
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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 02:45 PM
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I'd think even an OBS truck with an IDI wouldn't be a good choice for a daily driver, especially in CA. Would you have to do smog testing on the truck?
 
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Old Nov 23, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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California does not require smog for pre'98 diesel vehicles, making the OBS diesel that much more attractive. However, I'm afraid you may right about the OBS not too suitable for daily. Will need to broaden the horizons...perhaps 7.3 Powerstroke Super Duty or...?
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 05:25 AM
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7.3 idi is a great engine. turbo can be put on in one day by two people with mechanical knowledge.
used kits are usually around $1000. new kit is closer to $3500.
a turbocharged IDI with 3 inch free flowing exhaust is about equal to a first get powerstroke
4 inch exhaust is a waste of money, 3 inch is all you need.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 07:27 AM
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That's good that you don't have to smog test. I'd say an IDI is preferable to a Powerstroke any day of the week. Of course, I'm biased. 😁
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tirefriar
Just came back from a test drive. Loved everything except for how heavy the clutch is. Frankly, wasn't expecting to get a leg press workout. I get that that's how they are but it's slated to be a daily driver and the clutch feel is a major factor. Is there a solution? I'm leaning towards getting the truck...
Swap in a Luk solid mass flywheel and clutch. It will transform your leg workout back to a normal car feel. Has to be something about how they setup the pressure plate, but it is completely different feel.
When my '88 started ejecting springs from its 2nd DMF, I bought the Luk SMF kit to ditch the DMF. Had no idea it would transform driving experience the way it did.
My '93 had a Southbend SMF &clutch when I bought it. Same *****ty feel as the factory DMF in the '88, hated it! When I swapped the ZF6 in, I was able to use a Luk clutch for a Powerstroke with ZF6, and it luckily bolted to the Southbend flywheel with the same holes. Transformed that truck too, and my wife will even drive it when she has to.

You'll want the turbo for sure, what turbo depends on your budget and mechanical abilities. 3" is plenty for exhaust.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 11:31 AM
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Luk kit is not expensive. I have a feeling the most expensive part of this operation is the installation. Is there a reputable mechanic/shop in the LosAngeles area that can do an install? After driving the truck and seeing how easily it gets up to 75 mph cruising speed I'd consider doing the clutch first and then the turbo at a later time...
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 12:29 PM
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clutch is another of those do it yourself deals.
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 12:37 PM
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the fact that your asking about shops is a big reason to pass on this truck, not to mention you're looking for a daily driver, are you prepared for 13 mpg ?

an IDI is a get your hands dirty, constant state of diagnoses and repair, if you need a shop it had better be a friend,

We have heard to many times, "nobody wants to work on it", "they had it for months and it's still not fixed",

these are "relatively" simple engines but the fact you can't hook up a code scanner and have to use experience as your diagnostic tool eliminates a lot of mechanics, it's like trying to find someone with experience to adjust your carburetor, you're probably going to pay through the nose,

 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 01:07 PM
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I appreciate all the candid input. I almost called the seller with an offer, glad I went back to revisit this thread. Ruling out IDI for future considerations, I still hope to have a Ford parked in the driveway. Several options are 7.3 Powerstroke either in OBS or SD or a newer 4x4 crew cab. As for the mileage, 13-14 mpg is not bad, considering that my old f350 7.5 crew cab dually got 8 mph regardless of the driving conditions, the '89 f150 5.7 was 11 mpg maybe slightly better if driven downhill with a tailwind and feathering the throttle. I got the best mpg at around 14 from the '96 f250 4x4 7.3. Slowly coming around to the conclusion I may have jumped the gun selling it...
 
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Old Nov 24, 2023 | 11:23 PM
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If you decide to reconsider, I don't know what clutch I have, but my clutch is not heavy at all in my 93 turbo CCLB and with my ZF5 and 3.55s and all my fuel issues fixed I get just shy of 20 MPG on the highway unloaded and I am typically doing 70-80 MPH. I have also found my IDI to be one of my favorite trucks I have over owned or driven. It is fantastic and even at 300K+ miles it starts first click of the key and runs incredibly. The 7.3 IDIT would definitely be my top engine choice for an OBS. If I didn't work downtown it may very well be my daily.

As far as maintenance concerns a powerstroke will only be a couple of years newer and likely need all the same stuff with significantly more expensive parts, but if you can't do it yourself you will definitely have a much easier time finding someone to work on a powerstroke, but it seems getting someone to work on anything "classic" these days is getting to be an expensive and slow proposition.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott in TX
the fact that your asking about shops is a big reason to pass on this truck, not to mention you're looking for a daily driver, are you prepared for 13 mpg ?

an IDI is a get your hands dirty, constant state of diagnoses and repair, if you need a shop it had better be a friend,

We have heard to many times, "nobody wants to work on it", "they had it for months and it's still not fixed",

these are "relatively" simple engines but the fact you can't hook up a code scanner and have to use experience as your diagnostic tool eliminates a lot of mechanics, it's like trying to find someone with experience to adjust your carburetor, you're probably going to pay through the nose,
Good info here ^^^
 
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Old Nov 25, 2023 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by bulletpruf
Good info here ^^^
Absolutely!
 
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Old Nov 26, 2023 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott in TX
the fact that your asking about shops is a big reason to pass on this truck, not to mention you're looking for a daily driver, are you prepared for 13 mpg ?

an IDI is a get your hands dirty, constant state of diagnoses and repair, if you need a shop it had better be a friend,

We have heard to many times, "nobody wants to work on it", "they had it for months and it's still not fixed",

these are "relatively" simple engines but the fact you can't hook up a code scanner and have to use experience as your diagnostic tool eliminates a lot of mechanics, it's like trying to find someone with experience to adjust your carburetor, you're probably going to pay through the nose,
Agreed. I have found this out the hard way. I have a truck that nobody else will touch. Also, if I drive out of town, I need to consider the cost of transporting it a long distance home if it breaks down, since there's slim chance of finding a mechanic to fix it wherever I happen to break down.
 
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