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The earlier 3.6 engines had some head problems and had a head redesign around 2014. I don't know about the cylinder problems, and I haven't heard or read anything about it on the Ram forum.
My 3.6 only has 32k on it, and I may or may not reach 100k before I end up not driving or passing on. I've had my '87 F-150 since 1992, that had 76k on it when I bought it. I only have 132k on it now, and it was my main transportation most of the time until recently since I bought it.
Hopefully I will have good luck with it, but you never know.
The 2013 and onward Pentastar V6 motors are work horses and well above average among DOHC V6 motors, but at the end of the day it was still a corporate V6 that was shoehorned into a lot of applications that I am not sure if they intended to both in terms of usage, and form factor.
I had one in a LX Charger that pulled like a small V8 but returned 30mpg with the 8 speed ZF, very comfortable, the motor allowed a nice light front end that made easy work of curvy mountain roads as long as you know the limit. I kind of wish I still had that car. It is also far more expensive to produce than the 5.7 Hemi. Once Toyota is done with full direct injection move, it may be one of the last port injection naturally aspirated V6 on the market.
People buying this in CA better put some money aside just to keep it registered. Between our weight fees, which CA charges EVs between 6001 and 9999 lbs 266 dollars a year, plus registration fee, plus a Vehicle Licensing Fee(really a property tax for .06% of the sales prices that decreases on a sliding scale over the years), and an assortment of other add-ons, it wouldn't surprise me if the regular SLT type trim owner pays 1000 or more a year in just getting the tags.
This truck has a ICE that CA want's to ban, so will this truck qualify to sell in CA?
This truck has a ICE that CA want's to ban, so will this truck qualify to sell in CA?
If you've ever paid attention to the emissions decal under the hood of every gas vehicle made in the last 30 or so years you'll either see CA compliant or 49 State. I've only seen the CA compliant on one vehicle in all my years as it was someone passing thru on a trip.
This truck comes to market next year, and I don’t think California is trying to ban anything for a decade. Even if that happens, it will be sold alongside its BEV sister for a decade.
It’s pretty rare for a truck design to last anywhere close to 10 years unless it’s a Tacoma.
I guess it will depend on if Stellantis can pay off the right pencil pusher in CARB to certify this as zero emissions being a PHEV
No skids need to be greased, the rule plainly states that PHEVs with 50 miles of range are good with their 2035 rules. I’d be surprised if the Ramcharger was still being produced in this form by then. Ram’s last redesign was 2019; eleven years is a long time in this industry.
No skids need to be greased, the rule plainly states that PHEVs with 50 miles of range are good with their 2035 rules. I’d be surprised if the Ramcharger was still being produced in this form by then. Ram’s last redesign was 2019; eleven years is a long time in this industry.
bold of you to assume CARB won't change the rules between now and 2035. that 20% limit of PHEV is going to be a sticking point too for a company that largely lives on its truck sales.
Why discuss what that backwards state does? Complete waste of time. Prop 65 california causes cancer. Cancer of the mind!
because CA is a huge part of the US auto market, and CARB is followed by a number of states and DC, what goes in CA goes in the other places eventually.
I really don’t like constantly sharing YouTube links on here, but here we are…
These are some interesting thoughts by Sandy Munro, the owner of the engineering teardown firm that we’ve talked about in the past. This was recorded in front of a stripped Lightning body. To summarize:
- He thinks the Ram will be more expensive and heavier, but will fill a niche for those who need long range. I think he misunderstands how difficult it is to tow over longer distance.
- The 3.6L Pentastar adds 360 lbs, 100 lbs for cooling, 30 lbs of electronics, and probably 90 lbs for the generator.
- Ramcharger won’t have a frunk because the engine will sit there.
- The Lightning is the best work truck on the market right now, and a better option for those who don’t need extremely long range.
- Ram and Ford will dominate the market with their split approach. He doesn’t know what GM is doing.
- The Lightning is the best work truck on the market right now, and a better option for those who don’t need extremely long range.
Best *electric* work truck, sure, but ford really has to come down on price or build more cheaper trims.
The cheapest one on the lot within 150 miles of me is one that was a special ordered Pro with MSRP of 57500 that looks like the original order person passed on it, and it has been sitting there for some time with no one buying it. With tax and fees it will be over 63k for 240 miles of max range, I don't know many contractors in my areas that can afford that and don't need to drive all over the place all day. These days people take jobs as far as they can drive in a day and that 240 mile max range is a doozy.
Best *electric* work truck, sure, but ford really has to come down on price or build more cheaper trims.
The cheapest one on the lot within 150 miles of me is one that was a special ordered Pro with MSRP of 57500 that looks like the original order person passed on it, and it has been sitting there for some time with no one buying it. With tax and fees it will be over 63k for 240 miles of max range, I don't know many contractors in my areas that can afford that and don't need to drive all over the place all day. These days people take jobs as far as they can drive in a day and that 240 mile max range is a doozy.
I agree about price, but that’s getting better. Batteries have always been the reason why BEVs are more expensive than their ICE counterparts, and the inputs costs have plummeted in recent months.
The standard range pack wouldn’t work for me, either. I think a lot of fleets operate in low mileage city conditions with lots of stop and go, which is the perfect use case for the standard range truck. Most of my driving is at higher speeds, and I’m only getting about 60% of the rated efficiency. Not sure what this will look like when it gets colder.
I agree about price, but that’s getting better. Batteries have always been the reason why BEVs are more expensive than their ICE counterparts, and the inputs costs have plummeted in recent months.
The standard range pack wouldn’t work for me, either. I think a lot of fleets operate in low mileage city conditions with lots of stop and go, which is the perfect use case for the standard range truck. Most of my driving is at higher speeds, and I’m only getting about 60% of the rated efficiency. Not sure what this will look like when it gets colder.
Doesn't the battery cooling system also help warm the battery in cold climates?
Doesn't the battery cooling system also help warm the battery in cold climates?
It’s an energy consumption thing rather than about battery capacity. Cold batteries have just as much energy when they’re ice cold, but the truck needs a lot more of it. It has to warm the cabin, and push through cold, dense air. Think of the MPG hit you take with a gasoline engine and magnify it because cabin/powertrain heating isn’t “free.”
I’ve never noticed any difference in range with battery temperatures. I get about the same range starting off with a warm battery in the garage as I do parked outside on a cold night, with the exception of the initial hit when I warm the cabin up.
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