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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 08:18 AM
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I'm looking a good location to do a vacuum reading. THe Chilton says "attach the the vacuum beyond the Throttle plate." Would that mean using the vacuum line going to brakes vacuum assist or using this "vacuum terminal block" that is threaded to int intake manifold? The carb in the photo is the original which was rebuilt an the installed when a complete overhaul was done. I suspect it has had it days. I do not know the card manufacturer.
 

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That vacuum tree on the manifold would be a good spot. Just unplug one of the three capped hoses and hook er up. It wouldn't hurt to go by a parts store and get some real vacuum caps for that tree instead of the hoses with screws in them.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks Crop Duster 3/8 or 1/4 inch?? On the vacuum tree plugs. If you know I would appreciate
 
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Old Oct 21, 2023 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Crop Duster
That vacuum tree on the manifold would be a good spot. Just unplug one of the three capped hoses and hook er up. It wouldn't hurt to go by a parts store and get some real vacuum caps for that tree instead of the hoses with screws in them.
Yes a good place to pull vacuum from.
Me I would not change what you got to plug off the ports.
The store bought cap my look nice but they are cheap and will dry up and crack / fall off and then you have a carppy running motor.
If that worried about the screw in the end showing pull them all off and fill them with black RTV and let them get hard for a day or 2 and put them back on.
It will take forever for the hose caps to dry up and fall off.

Now I like the RTV trick that I just came up with I may have to use that on my truck
Dave ----
 
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Old Oct 22, 2023 | 01:00 PM
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Yes a good place to pull vacuum from.
Me I would not change what you got to plug off the ports.
The store bought cap my look nice but they are cheap and will dry up and crack / fall off and then you have a carppy running motor.
If that worried about the screw in the end showing pull them all off and fill them with black RTV and let them get hard for a day or 2 and put them back on.
It will take forever for the hose caps to dry up and fall off.

Now I like the RTV trick that I just came up with I may have to use that on my truck
Dave ----
Dave, at work we have silicone vacuum caps available. As well as radiator hoses and smaller hose. Not sure where they are sourced since its sunday but that seems the way to go for longevity.
 
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Thanls for the advice on the vacuum plugs. The parts stores I shop have a small variety sized packs, I pullebd the vacuum off the tree and was surprised at the reading. I do not have any pinging or auto rotation after shut down. It starts easy with the manual choke, Choke not needed after warm up. Does idle high to my senses. Only non stock items on the overhaul was a RV cam and pointless. New cap with original distributor. I does run a warmer which could be the late timing.
I couple of idicator widths past the middle of the gauge scale. I know there is a lot more than just moving the distributor. I have less than 1,000 miles after the complete overhaul. Is the vacuum guage a way tp set the timing?
 
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Originally Posted by ralphyboy

Is the vacuum guage a way tp set the timing?
I use a vacuum gauge to set the carburetor idle screws but not ignition timing. For that I start with around 10-12 initial timing (with vacuum disconnected and plugged). So long as it starts easy and idles nice, that's a reasonable starting point. Factory book says around 6-8 initial. Then go by trial and error based on your preferences for total mechanical advance and rate of advance. Usually 38ish degrees is what iron headed FE's like for total mechanical advance. It's up to your preference at what rpm's that happens...probably somewhere between 2500 and 3000 rpms.

By the way, your kinda low vacuum may be due to late ignition timing or could be a factor of your "rv" cam...or a little of both. As long as it runs well and vacuum is steady then it's good. If you had a stock cam I'd expect vacuum to hit 20ish when warmed up and idling.
 
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Originally Posted by Thunderkiss1965
Dave, at work we have silicone vacuum caps available. As well as radiator hoses and smaller hose. Not sure where they are sourced since its sunday but that seems the way to go for longevity.
I would go with them before the store bought caps.
I had a diesel with a Gale Banks turbo I installed and it used silicone hose.
I did find some of the hose split open at the nipples and I dont remember them being that old either.

Me think will stick with vacuum hose with screws in the ends
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Originally Posted by ralphyboy

Thanls for the advice on the vacuum plugs. The parts stores I shop have a small variety sized packs, I pullebd the vacuum off the tree and was surprised at the reading. I do not have any pinging or auto rotation after shut down. It starts easy with the manual choke, Choke not needed after warm up. Does idle high to my senses. Only non stock items on the overhaul was a RV cam and pointless. New cap with original distributor. I does run a warmer which could be the late timing.
I couple of idicator widths past the middle of the gauge scale. I know there is a lot more than just moving the distributor. I have less than 1,000 miles after the complete overhaul. Is the vacuum guage a way tp set the timing?
Get a cheap timing light to set the timing (plugged vacuum advance). 10*ish is a good starting point with todays fuels. Many timing lights give you also the rpm, which is nice. Adjust the idle and now use the idle mixture screws to find the highest vacuum. Make sure both idle mixture screws are equally. Not one is 2.5 turns out and the other 1 turn. I usually add 1/16th turn to make it more rich. You might have to adjust idle speed afterwards.
Your current vacuum seems low for an RV cam, especially if the idle is high. Might be timing related or you have a small vacuum leak. Almost more important is a steady needle. No bouncing around or dips is always a good sign.
 
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I am following up on the vacuum system leak as I search for timing light. I purchased a set of vacuum plugs I found on Amazon. Cheap enough for under $10. They set in good at 5/32 on the vacuum tree. One of the H&M (homemade) plugs on the adapative screw was was easliy removed, The others were tight. They are in the middle of the tray photo. The carb photo show signs of leakage. On the vacuum advance there is an an inlet or outlet not sure. I put finger on it at idle and nothing change to my senses. I through the vacuum meter back on an see if any changes occur.
 
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