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Old Jul 15, 2002 | 11:42 PM
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Hello out there, I am a life member of the NRA and I was Wondering if there was neone out there that shares the same views on hunting and the gun control effort to demolish the second amendment. I think that hunting is the most awesome sport in the world. I think that the only reason anti-gun people do not like guns is because they were deprived as children and they have no clue how to use a gun and it scares them. Thanks, Dayton


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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 12:22 AM
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>Hello out there, I am a life member of the NRA and I was
>Wondering if there was neone out there that shares the same
>views on hunting and the gun control effort to demolish the
>second amendment. I think that hunting is the most awesome
>sport in the world. I think that the only reason anti-gun
>people do not like guns is because they were deprived as
>children and they have no clue how to use a gun and it
>scares them. Thanks, Dayton
>
>
> ~I am the next Ted Nugent.~



I agree with you. I don't hunt. Nothing against it. Just haven't found the time. I just find it theraputic to take out that old broken television or appliance and blow it to an oblivion. I don't need no stinkin medication. Thats my way of staying sane. I saw something interesting on tv about russia a while ago. About how only the police and military are allowed guns. And yet the criminals over there yet posess them and the regular citizens get the shaft. The same thing would happen here. The criminals will always find acess to guns. Hell, its easier and faster for them to get a firearm than I can. It's hard for me to even get a permit to carry yet these gang bangers are just roaming free amongst us murdering innocent people because they can't aim and hit there rival target. The liberals need to get a clue.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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Yes, indeed, Liberals suck, I am drunk right now and just got into an argument with one, and I wish i was sober, because I would have torn this bleeding heart to shreds. Bottom line is:

If you work for your money, then you are a reblican, or a similar right-wingist

If you don't, and depend on the government, then you are a democrat.

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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 12:38 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-Jul-02 AT 01:39 AM (EST)] Don't get me started!
We don't live in comie country gun control is just a job creating, money grab.
If the the liberals want me to register my gun they have to pry it from my cold dead fingers FIRST!
After criminals don't register their guns before they use them.
I better stop now.
GO TED NUGENT, give EM hell.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 01:59 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-Jul-02 AT 03:02 AM (EST)]I think that the only reason anti-gun
>people do not like guns is because they were deprived as
>children and they have no clue how to use a gun and it
>scares them. Thanks, Dayton
~I am the next Ted Nugent.~

I agree. Plus it's a lot of propaganda on the anti freedom side putting the scare into the people. Them come up with all these statistics, theorys and victims to parade in front of the liberial news media who shares their views. What they don't tell the people is when a gun is used to protect, defend or thwart an evil doer. On the evening news when ever crime statictics are reported they usually show a picture of a handgun to get people to think all crime is connected with guns. When was the last time you seen or heard a positive news story that involved the use of a gun? They will tell you that you are putting your children at risk by having a gun in the house. "Get them out" they say. What really frys my beacon is when they say "it's for the children". Oh really! Well one of the best things I can do for my children is to protect them and teach them how to protect themselves. I know there are some dummies out there who are irresponsible when it comes to firearms. Leaving a loaded weapon around where a courious kid can get a hold of it is just plain stupid. We need to teach our kids about firearms. The benefits, the dangers, responsibility and what it means to live in a free country where we can own one. I don't think it's all about gun control but people control. But they'er not going to control the criminal element. The criminals will have control over us if we can't protect ourselves. And in this day and age, now more than ever our populous needs to be armed. Or have they forgot, we're at war with an enemy that is no doubt within our borders.

EDIT: Oh yes, welcome to the forum Dayton.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 06:56 AM
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This whole liberal thing is simply a matter of control. They want to control people. Not just one or two, but everyone!

When you analyze all the liberal philosophy, it becomes very clear. For the most part (there are a few naive well -intented but uninformed in their midst), they don't care about safety, the environment, minorities, or any of the issues proclaimed. They just want to be able to tell someone else what they can and can not do.

This includes things like how fast you can drive, what color you can paint your house, how many dogs you can own, when you can hunt dove, when you can carry a gun, how much gasoline your car can burn, when and how you can discipline your children, how much money you can spend to get yourself elected to political office, what "clubs" you have to join in order to work in your state etc, etc. There is and will be no end to what they will try to control. But it is just a matter of control. They don't care about facts. They don't understand facts, in fact they for the most part can't tell truth from fiction.

Enough, I have to stop here.

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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 06:58 AM
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I fully believe in the right to bear arms. I have 6 long guns & 2 handguns. All but 1 have trigger locks. The 1 without the trigger lock is always with me. My daughter (8 yrs) knows not to touch them ever. Whenever her freinds visit our bedroom door is locked to limit access. When she is 12 yrs. I will teach her how to use all of them properly & safely. I used to hunt small game & deer but I just don't have the time any more. Now they just make me feel a little safer.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 07:49 AM
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I to am a Life Member of the NRA a Hunter and am also in to Cowboy Action Shooting. We can talk about what these Gun Control folks are doing all day long but we must stay ahead of these people at all cost or they will succeed. We can do that through donations to the groups that are fighting for our rights such as the NRA and ILA and also voting for the canidates that understand that these rights are sacred and need to be preserved. It makes me that these people have nothing better to do than try to take our rights away.


AOGDEN take that young one out and teach her to shoot my two daughters have been shooting since they were 8 and my oldest actually shoots better than me. Hey Dayton can you sing like Ted (lol)





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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 08:13 AM
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I'm a firm believer in gun control. I think this nation needs more gun control. Unless we control the handguns and rifles in this country crime will only increase and our society will destablilze. No gun control will lead to anarchy and loss of our liberties.







My definition of gun control: A tight group on the bullseye.

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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 08:15 AM
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NRA member here, living in occupied Missouri where CCW is not permitted. I try to shoot on a weekly basis. My six year old son loves to shoot everything from .22 shorts to 7.62x39 to .30-30. Don't even get me started on liberal bashing or we could be here a while.

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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 08:49 AM
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Gun Control is hitting your target!

Don't own any myself yet(I just turned 18), but I shoot often and plan on buying a 10/22 soon.

Just the thought of liberals makes me mad
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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[updated:LAST EDITED ON 16-Jul-02 AT 10:11 AM (EST)]I do not own a gun, do not belong to the NRA, and don't want to. I would like to see enforced safety measures for gun owners, which is in essence, gun control. I don't like the NRA's position because they sound like a bunch of crazies. They take it to the extreme. All too often the NRA members you hear from belong to some wacked out militia group, like those loser brothers here in Michigan. You remember, Timothy McVeighs friends? Oklahoma City bombing? The government also wants to take it to the extreme, in the other direction, which is wrong. A wise man once said "if you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns". I am for thorough background checks. Some people don't like that. They think they should be able to walk in off the street and buy a gun now and use it now. I really don't understand why someone would be in such a rush, unless they were going to commit a crime. Therefore, background checks are good. After all, what do you have to hide?
I also agree with the elimination of assault weapons. NRA members went crazy with that one. What do you need an assault weapon for? They are not used for hunting anything, except man. Can't you kill someone with a pistol or a shotgun?
With anything, crime is going to happen. Eliminating legal firearms will not eliminate crime. It may stop a child from shooting himself, but that isn't gun control. Instead of being so strict on issuing a license for a firearm, maybe they should be issuing licenses to become a parent, and regulate who can have kids. I think that would save more kids lives.
I am not against guns or gun ownership. I would target shoot now if I had the time. When I was in the Army (quite some time ago, when I could see well) I qualified at the expert level for virtually all the weapons I shot (M16 day and night course, M60 machine gun, 50 Cal, LAW, and REDEYE AIR DEFENSE SYSTEM) and I thoroughly enjoyed blasting things to hell. Wish I was back there at times making those big bombs out of 50 gallon drums, gasoline, and oatmeal. Really did a number on the trees!!
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 09:14 AM
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>This whole liberal thing is simply a matter of control.
>They want to control people. Not just one or two, but
>everyone!
>
>When you analyze all the liberal philosophy, it becomes very
>clear. For the most part (there are a few naive well
>-intented but uninformed in their midst), they don't care
>about safety, the environment, minorities, or any of the
>issues proclaimed. They just want to be able to tell
>someone else what they can and can not do.
>
>This includes things like how fast you can drive, what color
>you can paint your house, how many dogs you can own, when
>you can hunt dove, when you can carry a gun, how much
>gasoline your car can burn, when and how you can discipline
>your children, how much money you can spend to get yourself
>elected to political office, what "clubs" you have to join
>in order to work in your state etc, etc. There is and will
>be no end to what they will try to control. But it is just
>a matter of control. They don't care about facts. They
>don't understand facts, in fact they for the most part can't
>tell truth from fiction.
>
>Enough, I have to stop here.
>
>Winford

Funny -- I thought it was the conservatives who wanted to control everything. They want to tell me how and when to worship, what words I can and can't use, who I can and can't criticize, and even how to have sex with my wife. They also want to tell me how to educate my son.

Granted - the "liberals" are just as bad, in many of the ways you describe. The liberals want to control my economic life, and the conservatives want to control my private life. That's why I'm a libertarian.

As far as gun control goes, I'm all for reasonable controls. That means that law abiding adults should not be prohibited from owning and carrying guns. I don't have a problem with licensing and even registration -- hell, we do it for cars, why not for guns? I have a concealed carry permit (TN is a right-to-carry state), and carry a Glock 26 regularly. I keep several other guns at home, including a "home defense" shotgun. I believe that an armed populace of good citizens is the best deterrent against crime. Statistics do show, for example, that the crime rate in Texas DROPPED significantly in the years following its adoption of a right-to-carry law and the issuing of hundreds of thousands of new permits. Bad guys are much less likely to try carjacking or mugging you if they know there's a good chance you're armed.

The bottom line is that we should make every effort to keep guns out of the hands of criminals, and to be able to trace guns used in crimes back to their sources. We should prosecute and shut down those sources. We should not, however, keep guns away from good people who want them for defense, hunting, sport shooting or any other lawful reason.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 09:39 AM
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It is becoming more of a nuisance to own a gun all the time (in Canada anyways). I own several and all have to registered and we have to be licensed. I am not a hunter but I like to take shots at objects like tin cans. However I don't look at guns as fun or stress relieving because quite often (it seems) they get into the wrong hands. When it comes down to it the guns themselves are not dangerous it is the person behind it that is!!!!!!

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Old Jul 16, 2002 | 10:33 AM
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>I do not own a gun, do not belong to the NRA, and don't want
>to. I would like to see enforced safety measures for gun
>owners, which is in essence, gun control. I don't like the
>NRA's position because they sound like a bunch of crazies.
>They take it to the extreme. All too often the NRA members
>you hear from belong to some wacked out militia group, like
>those loser brothers here in Michigan. You remember, Timothy
>McVeighs friends? Oklahoma City bombing? The government also
>wants to take it to the extreme, in the other direction,
>which is wrong. A wise man once said "if you outlaw guns,
>only outlaws will have guns". I am for thorough background
>checks. Some people don't like that. They think they should
>be able to walk in off the street and buy a gun now and use
>it now. I really don't understand why someone would be in
>such a rush, unless they were going to commit a crime.
>Therefore, background checks are good. After all, what do
>you have to hide?
>I also agree with the elimination of assault weapons. NRA
>members went crazy with that one. What do you need an
>assault weapon for? They are not used for hunting anything,
>except man. Can't you kill someone with a pistol or a
>shotgun?
>With anything, crime is going to happen. Eliminating legal
>firearms will not eliminate crime. It may stop a child from
>shooting himself, but that isn't gun control. Instead of
>being so strict on issuing a license for a firearm, maybe
>they should be issuing licenses to become a parent, and
>regulate who can have kids. I think that would save more
>kids lives.
>I am not against guns or gun ownership. I would target shoot
>now if I had the time. When I was in the Army (quite some
>time ago, when I could see well) I qualified at the expert
>level for virtually all the weapons I shot (M16 day and
>night course, M60 machine gun, 50 Cal, LAW, and REDEYE AIR
>DEFENSE SYSTEM) and I thoroughly enjoyed blasting things to
>hell. Wish I was back there at times making those big bombs
>out of 50 gallon drums, gasoline, and oatmeal. Really did a
>number on the trees!!

No offense, and you're certainly entitled to your opinion, but your logic is so full of holes that I would need to take the rest of the afternoon off to go into details.

Incidentally, the average working man cannot own an assault weapon, so we buy the neutered version that looks cool, but in reality is no more potent than your average deer rifle.

 
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