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Covid made the truck market bizarro, so everything being sold during the truck shortage is an exception to the normal market. A few years ago (2018) you could buy a well equipped Super Duty Diesel for 55K, 8-10K off MRSP. The same truck today is 80-90K with no real discounts for a truck on the lot. Covid created the imbalance, but we will get to a point where people are not buying everything on the lot and the prices will become more competitive to a normal market. I don’t know when, but the cycle will return. It already has for the F150s as far as discounts off MRSP.
Exactly. I make enough to buy a few new SD’s but there’s no way I’m paying what Ford is asking at the moment because it’s a simple decision about not thinking they’re worth the elevated costs at the moment.
I also have a 2021 so I’m not in a hurry either. But I will say if I was in a hurry I’d heavily shop GM & Ram if I needed something.
The new interior of the Fords is too plastic looking for the price also. The Ram and now even the new GM interiors just look a little nicer. GM had the worst interior previously by a long shot but not anymore.
I agree with acdii, it depends on the mods, and also the seller... when I was looking at trucks, I passed on a few because I could tell by the state of the truck, and the owner, that they just weren't taken care of very well, which brings into question the servicing and maintenance. When I sold my 97 F350 7.3/CC/4x I offered it with 2 prices, one with the new tires and wheels that I had on it that I liked, or the stockers, sold it with the stockers and put my new ones on another one of my fleet.
As stated, I would keep all the stock parts and have them available when you sell it. Wheels and tires are a personal choice, and I have asked for the stocks instead also. Personally, the things that devalue a truck, are the ones that aren't functional, or are too personalized and gaudy, functional items like a sturdy winch bumper w/winch, solid rear bumper add some value.
Some people spend thousands to make their trucks look awful and sometimes even inhibit their ability to do the job they were intended for. Generally, the same folks are thrilled with the results. When they are happy with the results, I am happy for them. I like to see people get what they want without having any need to want that same thing myself.
But I'd be very significantly less likely to buy it from them. I'm only interested in mods that specifically serve the purpose I use the truck for. For example, bedliner/truck mat, tonneau cover/cap, tinted windows (legal), upgraded shocks, etc.
When I see the “arches†aka fender flares I keep on cruising. It tells me the fenders are rotted out and they were installed to hide it.
If they were not rotted out when they were installed, they will be because the flares hold the salt and sand in there and you cannot wash behind them.
May not be quite the issue with the aluminum body but the concept is still there, NaCi and AI in a damp and enclosed environment? Not good.
Believe what you will. You are entitled to your opinion. There's no way that a 1-year old aluminum body Superduty is going to rot the fenders out with corrosion. It just isn't possible with normal exposure. I'm the one that installed the flares and I had nothing to hide except mud from being slung onto the body. They do their job rather well and don't harm the truck. I'll be installing a wider set on my '22 soon. They grip onto the underside of the fender lip and don't require drilling. They even have soft rubber gaskets to prevent marring the paint. Each can be removed in less than five minutes for cleaning and application of wax to protect the paint.
When I see the “arches†aka fender flares I keep on cruising. It tells me the fenders are rotted out and they were installed to hide it.
If they were not rotted out when they were installed, they will be because the flares hold the salt and sand in there and you cannot wash behind them.
May not be quite the issue with the aluminum body but the concept is still there, NaCi and AI in a damp and enclosed environment? Not good.
This is true on steel bodies. Even the factory ones hide rust, but there are ways to check for it too. The 2012 I had, both bed sides had rust under the factory flares, but there as a LOT of rust everywhere on the bed. Usually by the time the flares have rust build up under them, the underside of the floor is a pock marked disaster too. Anything 2017 and up should not have rust or corrosion under flares, factory or not, at least on the Ford truck, GM/RAM though, probably already too late.
I don’t think mods add value at all. You’ll never get the money spent back out of it. To some people a vehicle is just a tool to get point A - B, or pull their horse trailer, and they have no personal attachment to it. Those people aren’t gonna pay more for “your” mods (not directed at OP).
Other people a vehicle means a lot more to them, it’s a personal attachment to some degree, they seek out certain models, color, etc. These people likely won’t pay more for “your” mods, and would probably be put off by them.
Im the latter type of person. I am also OCD about taking care of things I own. When I go shopping for a used truck, it’s a specific model. I don’t give a truck with a lift, tires/wheels that look like a roller skate, or ANY body panel mods a second look. Hard pass.
The truck I seek out is one that looks bone stock, unmolested, and taken care of as good as I would have done. A bone stock, “papaw” truck with a camper top on it, body / paint in excellent condition, I’d run to with a fist full of money.
When I do a mod to my own vehicles I always keep the stock parts, well packaged and stored away. When I sell it, I’ll put it back to stock and sell the “mod” parts separately. Nearly everything I list for sell, brings the price I ask and the first person who come to look at it in person leaves with it, without even asking about dropping the price.
Believe what you will. You are entitled to your opinion. There's no way that a 1-year old aluminum body Superduty is going to rot the fenders out with corrosion. It just isn't possible with normal exposure. I'm the one that installed the flares and I had nothing to hide except mud from being slung onto the body. They do their job rather well and don't harm the truck. I'll be installing a wider set on my '22 soon. They grip onto the underside of the fender lip and don't require drilling. They even have soft rubber gaskets to prevent marring the paint. Each can be removed in less than five minutes for cleaning and application of wax to protect the paint.
They DO harm the truck. Take one off after 6weeks and the arch where the flare touches the body, will have paint damage. Maybe the paint is just dull in that spot, or started to get scuffed, or started to corrode.
The fact that some people on here have stated they will not consider a modded vehicle answers your question. It may not reduce the amount you could get when selling you vehicle, but it will, most definitely, limit the pool of buyers. Whether that translates into a lower price or a longer sale is speculative.
As someone else previously pointed out, it also depends on whether you are selling a 1-year old modded truck, or a 10-year old modded truck.
I've modded every truck I've owned. Nothing that can't be taken back to stock (usually), and I use OEM parts whenever possible.
Most people trade in at a dealer. The dealer will give you book value, maybe even more depending on the mods. They don't care about your shoddy wiring or backup lights, or extra few holes you drilled in the bedrail for your toolbox. The salesmen at the dealer will have no problem trying to upsell your mods to the next buyer.
I've also had no problem selling my trucks private party. Sure, you might lose the purist buyers who want a 100% bone stock truck, but you will gain buyers who want a truck that is already done close to what they want....they think they are getting a deal on the parts and labor you already did for them.
When I buy a truck I change things I want changed, it's my truck and I will do what I want to it. I don't worry about the other end, someone will want it.
1. I don't do too much in the way of cosmetic mods. I get plenty of compliments from friends and strangers alike just by keeping it clean. People seem to like chrome just fine.
2. The truck came from Ford set up for world class towing. Any suspension mods for off road or other such use (nothing wrong with that, but) will detract from towing.
3. All my mods must be functional. Rear lights, tonneau, window tint. They all serve a purpose.
4. As to resale value, I hope this will be my last truck The plan is to drive it 20 years, at which time the kids will take away my keys. Then they can sell it.
4. As to resale value, I hope this will be my last truck The plan is to drive it 20 years, at which time the kids will take away my keys. Then they can sell it.
I don't buy vehicles based on resale value but all my vehicles ended up being resale champs because I buy reliable vehicles. In the 3/4-1ton segment Ford is still king of the (small) hill.
Only mods I make are for improving performance and longevity, like a DPK and Banks Derringer/Pedal Monster/iDash. Exterior I install PPF and Ceramic coating. It just adds longevity to the paint. I figure if there are things that only a few people would drool over, I sure wouldn't put it on the truck even if it was something I liked, you know, like gaudy wheels with dunce cap lug cones on an F-450 with a lift. Sort of derates the truck for it's intended purpose then since the wheels have no weight certification on them and the lift makes it too tall for 5th wheel towing. Yeah, and I CERTAINLY will not pay an extra $20K for it either, knock $20K off so I could remove the lift and put proper wheels on and we have a deal. LOL
Yes, the value can change with mods, it can go up or down, and the vehicle could appeal to a wider group of buyers or a smaller group of buyers.
I know a mechanic who drove halfway across the country to buy a modded truck. Due to the cost of the mods he felt he was getting good value. This is not uncommon in the marketplace, it's actually a smart way to buy.
If a mod can be economically reverted to stock, that's nice. Some people save stock parts if they expect to sell, for financial and/or marketing reasons.
Do you need/want the cow catcher big replacement bumper?
Here is my suggestion, so that you can try to recoup or not loose. Maybe add some value.
Get the 2019 Ford lariat black appearance package grill, have your headlight bezels, mirror caps (wrap in Xpel after), and door handles painted black or whatever. Aftermarket replacement headlights are inexpensive if you go that route and I would consider doing the door handles body color. Have your XLT badges and ford emblems painted; consider doing body color on the Ford ovals.
Prep and paint your bumpers body color and wrap in Xpel or equivalent. Or get a light aftermarket one that won’t require HD springs.
Sell all your stock stuff, if you do it factory quality you will probably keep or gain some value.
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