Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Coolant in oil

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 19, 2023 | 12:26 PM
  #1  
Red Rascal's Avatar
Red Rascal
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 128
Likes: 9
From: Louisville, Kentucky
Coolant in oil

I got a shock today. I went to change the break-in oil in my 1988 4.9L rebuilt engine and found maybe a cup of coolant and milky looking oil coming out of the oil pan drain. I was shocked! There are no external leaks which is no surprise, I did have had to top the coolant off a couple times but I "assumed" I was working out the air bubbles. I didn't notice any change in the look of oil on dipstick or any high "oil " levels. Although this is my first 4.9L rebuild, I tried to be very attentive. The block was reworked at a reputable machine shop; however, I did have a cracked head and had to get a replacement head from a salvage yard. The replacement head was supposed to have been and had evidence showing that it had been magnafluxed for cracks. I did a visual check of the head and did not notice anything out of the ordinary. I don't want to start the engine at this point to check compression. if the head gasket failed or there is a cracked head, I will have to remove the head anyway.

My question is this: On the 4.9L engine where is the "likely" failure point/s given the info I have provided. I hope it is something stupid I did or failed to do. Thanks for any help!
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2023 | 12:58 PM
  #2  
Prototypemech's Avatar
Prototypemech
Logistics Pro
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Community Builder
Liked
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,928
Likes: 1,199
From: Mojave, Ca
That's not a good sign. Unlike the ford V8, the straight 6 doesn't have many routes for the coolant to get into the oil. Bad head gasket, cracked head, or cracked block seems like the only paths. My guess is head gasket.
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2023 | 01:23 PM
  #3  
Red Rascal's Avatar
Red Rascal
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 128
Likes: 9
From: Louisville, Kentucky
Coolant in oil

I figured I would have to remove the head at the very least. I expect to find that the head is cracked. The first thing I'm going to do is a search on the internet for an "ACME Butt Kicking Machine" with a remote operated controller. I got in a hurry when I bought the head because I did not jhave my machine shop inspect it before I installed it. They were backed up and could not get to it right away....Haste makes Waste". Anyway, I used a new Felpro head gasket with ARP head studs to install the head. I'm hopeful the problem is in or with the head and not a deeper and more serious issue with the block.

I''m going to drain the coolant now. Just looking at it in the neck of the radiator. It does not appear to be contaminated with oil.
 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2023 | 01:48 PM
  #4  
sandymane's Avatar
sandymane
Lead Driver
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 6,185
Likes: 633
From: Houston/Sugar Land
ACME Butt Kicking Machine.... I would give you mine butt (no pun) it is worn out. Sorry about the job.
 
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2023 | 09:22 AM
  #5  
manicmechanic007's Avatar
manicmechanic007
Hotshot
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Jul 2020
Posts: 10,519
Likes: 2,654
From: Near Salt Lake City
Club FTE Silver Member

You might want to give it a second chance and change the oil and run it again
Possibly you did not drain the oil after the head was removed and you got coolant down the oil drain back holes?
If the radiator does not have contaminated milkshake? coolant, I would try it again but plan on buying a reman head
 
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2023 | 10:32 AM
  #6  
Prototypemech's Avatar
Prototypemech
Logistics Pro
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Community Builder
Liked
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 3,928
Likes: 1,199
From: Mojave, Ca
Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
You might want to give it a second chance and change the oil and run it again
Possibly you did not drain the oil after the head was removed and you got coolant down the oil drain back holes?
If the radiator does not have contaminated milkshake? coolant, I would try it again but plan on buying a reman head
That's a good idea.
 
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2023 | 07:37 PM
  #7  
Red Rascal's Avatar
Red Rascal
Thread Starter
|
Mountain Pass
10 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 128
Likes: 9
From: Louisville, Kentucky
Coolant in the oil

Originally Posted by manicmechanic007
You might want to give it a second chance and change the oil and run it again
Possibly you did not drain the oil after the head was removed and you got coolant down the oil drain back holes?
If the radiator does not have contaminated milkshake? coolant, I would try it again but plan on buying a reman head
manicmechanic00, I did a complete overhaul of the engine that included going .030 over on cylinders, rebuilt rods, crank ground, etc. The head that I had with the engine was found to be cracked which is why I bought a used head from a salvage yard that was supposed to have been magna-fluxed and cleared. I checked the guides, installed new springs, seals and valves before I installed the head. I'm in the process of removing the head from the engine and "hope" it is just a failed head gasket: although, I would be suspicious of why the head gasket failed. Once I remove the head, I'm going to get the head magna-fluxed and checked for flatness before I reinstall it.

As the Chief Dan George said in the movie, "The Outlaw Josey Wales", "I will endeavor to persevere."
 
Reply
Old Jun 20, 2023 | 07:56 PM
  #8  
hav24wheel's Avatar
hav24wheel
FTE Chapter Leader
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 11,273
Likes: 100
From: North Dakota
Club FTE Silver Member

Pressure test the cooling system when its full of coolant. Pump about 15-20 psi in it and let it sit overnight. And go from there.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-3

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-4

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-9

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dmelissa1962
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
5
Feb 8, 2017 11:45 PM
Waff78
1997 - 2003 F150
3
May 25, 2009 11:52 PM
hitkrdnck62571
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
3
Sep 25, 2006 07:47 AM
bedardrob
2.6, 2.8, 2.9, 4.0 & SOHC 4.0 V6
4
Oct 12, 2004 07:45 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:09 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-1
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-3
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-6
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE