96 4.9 P0174
I checked my fuel pressure and got strong numbers both with the FPR's vacuum line hooked up and without. In both cases, fuel pressure held strong with the truck off. I also put vacuum on the FPR with the truck off and it held vacuum. The truck's idle is normal and does not hang or hesitate. It is pulling 20in of vacuum at idle coming off the manifold. I have sprayed multiple times with carb cleaner. The Secondary Air Injection tube has a minor leak at the number one cylinder, possibly some other cylinders but the only definite reaction from the motor came when I sprayed at the number one cylinder. Even this leak though seems far too minor to set off a lean code within 5-10 miles of driving.
Also, on a few occasions where I've stopped and filled up with gas during a long road trip (3-4hrs), the truck has a VERY rough idle for about 15 seconds. Turns over and fires immediately like normal but it is very rough for about 15 seconds. Pressing on the gas marginally helps even out the idle and then things return to normal and the truck is fine. I talked to a mechanic about this. Given that my fuel pressure is strong (55-60psi without the regulator hooked up, 47-52 with it hooked up) and the codes I've mentioned, he recommended replacing the ECT (the sensor right next to the thermostat housing) and cleaning the IAC. This type of brief, rough idle has only occurred a few times after filling up during a long road trip.
Does anyone have thoughts about what could be triggering specifically the P0174 code and NOT the P0171 code? Even if p0171 does show up in the next day or so, it has been consistently p0174 that appears first and seems closer to the source of the issue. The truck idles strong but does have some occasional hiccups, not full on misfires, but just enough to be noticeable. Also, this may just be me, but the engine feels GREAT when the codes are cleared (very quiet and smooth) and then it feels like performance decreases slightly once the code(s) shows up. Nothing you would probably notice, but just a hair rougher at idle. Even with the codes on, the truck idles well and revs up smoothly. I've been getting 13-16 mpg HWY depending on wind direction, and around 10-12 mpg in town. 13-14 mpg when it's 50/50 mixed.
Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to get all the details in there ahead of time.
Thanks.
I checked my fuel pressure and got strong numbers both with the FPR's vacuum line hooked up and without. In both cases, fuel pressure held strong with the truck off. I also put vacuum on the FPR with the truck off and it held vacuum. The truck's idle is normal and does not hang or hesitate. It is pulling 20in of vacuum at idle coming off the manifold. I have sprayed multiple times with carb cleaner. The Secondary Air Injection tube has a minor leak at the number one cylinder, possibly some other cylinders but the only definite reaction from the motor came when I sprayed at the number one cylinder. Even this leak though seems far too minor to set off a lean code within 5-10 miles of driving.
Also, on a few occasions where I've stopped and filled up with gas during a long road trip (3-4hrs), the truck has a VERY rough idle for about 15 seconds. Turns over and fires immediately like normal but it is very rough for about 15 seconds. Pressing on the gas marginally helps even out the idle and then things return to normal and the truck is fine. I talked to a mechanic about this. Given that my fuel pressure is strong (55-60psi without the regulator hooked up, 47-52 with it hooked up) and the codes I've mentioned, he recommended replacing the ECT (the sensor right next to the thermostat housing) and cleaning the IAC. This type of brief, rough idle has only occurred a few times after filling up during a long road trip.
Does anyone have thoughts about what could be triggering specifically the P0174 code and NOT the P0171 code? Even if p0171 does show up in the next day or so, it has been consistently p0174 that appears first and seems closer to the source of the issue. The truck idles strong but does have some occasional hiccups, not full on misfires, but just enough to be noticeable. Also, this may just be me, but the engine feels GREAT when the codes are cleared (very quiet and smooth) and then it feels like performance decreases slightly once the code(s) shows up. Nothing you would probably notice, but just a hair rougher at idle. Even with the codes on, the truck idles well and revs up smoothly. I've been getting 13-16 mpg HWY depending on wind direction, and around 10-12 mpg in town. 13-14 mpg when it's 50/50 mixed.
Sorry for the long post. Just wanted to get all the details in there ahead of time.
Thanks.
With 187k miles, it looks like a bad cat was the source of my P0174 problem.
So again we are left with only a P0174 code and rough hard start when the engine is hot as symptoms. Gas mileage was about 15.7 driving at 65mph with 20mph wind helping me. P0174 only showing Bank 2 as lean along with the good numbers I got from testing the fuel pressure, as well as getting no change in warm-starting from extra priming the pump leads me to believe it is likely not a fuel pump related issue. I'm not completely ruling that out though yet.
I have a tune up kit (the sixlitre tune up) which has new plugs, wires, and coil which I will install soon. HOWEVER, I'd like to figure out this engine code first because, if it is the result of a problem other than routine maintenance, I don't want to mask the problem with a new tune up and then ruin my new plugs while the engine runs lean in one bank.
Thanks again everyone.




