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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 08:02 PM
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Hydraulic Winch

Has anyone put a hydraulic winch on a SD 6.7? Just wondering about the hydraulic hook up to the power steering pump; I know I would have to put on an aftermarket winch bumper.. I've got a Mile Marker 12k hydraulic, new in the box, been sitting in my shop for about 10 years. I bought it for a previous SD diesel (2011 or 2015) and it was supposed to have the correct adapters for that truck.

 
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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by scottz99
Has anyone put a hydraulic winch on a SD 6.7? Just wondering about the hydraulic hook up to the power steering pump; I know I would have to put on an aftermarket winch bumper.. I've got a Mile Marker 12k hydraulic, new in the box, been sitting in my shop for about 10 years. I bought it for a previous SD diesel (2011 or 2015) and it was supposed to have the correct adapters for that truck.
I do, but it's in a different form. My 2019 f650 rollback has a hydraulic winch. Rated for 16,000 lb but it is pulled heavier items up on the bed.

My is ran off a PTO. Hits about 3000 PSI under a good load.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 08:27 PM
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Check out clutchpumps.com. a power steering pump most likely will not put out enough pressure and flow rate to run a winch efficiently.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2023 | 09:41 PM
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Those winches were never a big hit. Their main issue was being slower than molasses. Second lesser concern was that your vehicle had to be running for it to work. Electric winches are much faster and can be used with the vehicle running or not.





 
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 06:07 AM
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PTO option sounds like the better choice at this point. Might be slow but it would work. I'm pretty sure you can't PTO a non-PTO transmission without LOTS of extra cash.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 07:30 AM
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PTO option sounds like the better choice at this point. Might be slow but it would work. I'm pretty sure you can't PTO a non-PTO transmission without LOTS of extra cash.
Even if the truck has the PTO option you will spend more than a new electric winch to get a pump and lines installed.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2023 | 08:55 AM
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PTO option

Originally Posted by HeavyAssault
PTO option sounds like the better choice at this point. Might be slow but it would work. I'm pretty sure you can't PTO a non-PTO transmission without LOTS of extra cash.
Adding PTO to a non PTO transmission is a pita. It's quicker and easier to swap transmissions. There are the belt drive electric clutch models available. My last two F-350 trucks I made sure the option was there in case I want to add PTO later.

I have a 6-speed PTO unit NIB that I bought for a 2017 SD, but I own a 2022 model with the 10-speed. Not compatible. Free 2 U if you pay shipping or pick up in ZIP 40069.

 
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Thanks for all the comments. The electric options are better; that is why the hydraulic winch is still in the box 10 years after I bought it; but seemed like a good idea at the time. Better still, I'll avoid the need for a winch with this pig of a truck. If I feel the need to get into sloppy conditions, I'll take the Jeep; it has a winch and weighs half what the truck does.

I still kick myself for selling (for a song) the three Warn 8274's that I had; also my cherry '67 Bronco; but that's another story. Please refrain from telling me how much they are worth now.
 
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Old Mar 24, 2023 | 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Adam R
Those winches were never a big hit. Their main issue was being slower than molasses. Second lesser concern was that your vehicle had to be running for it to work. Electric winches are much faster and can be used with the vehicle running or not.
I've got 3 Jeeps, each with 12K winches that can draw 500 amps, so you don't want be running the winch without alternator help. The F-600 I'm ordering has dual batteries and dual alternators, 410 amp alternator output. It also comes with PTO so I'm interested in a PTO winch. Even at 0 load, the winches take over 50 amps. I always use a ****** ring to double to pulling power and significantly reduce the amp load. Amp draw is linear but starts out about 55 amps with zero load.

I don't know anything about PTO winches but one attraction is duty cycle. My ZEON 12-S PLATINUM WINCH - 95960, which is the top of the line off road winch (until you get to exotics and specialty winches) won't even publish the duty cycle, but at least it tells you when the motor is too hot so you can let it cool off. I'm guessing a PTO that wasn't overloaded could pull all day.

If it's a really hard pull (it's never happened yet), I use a Spanish Burton rigging to get 4x the leverage. So far the SB rigging has been just for fun.

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Even if the truck has the PTO option you will spend more than a new electric winch to get a pump and lines installed.
OK, that answers that question. I'm an expert with electrical winches and know nothing about PTO, so I'll stick with electric. Probably one in front and one behind the cab in case I need to winch my Jeep up the ramps onto the bed.
 

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While I don't have an hydraulic winch, when I was looking at buying a winch I did review the hydraulic winches that were available at the time (~2007). They were designed to work with the OEM power steering pump.
 
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