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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 03:49 PM
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My truck has no yellow sticker and is registered at 26,000 GVWR, so how does that work in your example?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by longhaultransport
My truck has no yellow sticker and is registered at 26,000 GVWR, so how does that work in your example?
Well, in my example, the factory sticker hasn’t been taken off, and the cops not only know the GVWR of your truck, they also know to explain to you that 26000lb is your GCWR, not your GVWR.

But whatever. 👍
 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 05:53 PM
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I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and predict this thread will turn out to be one of those threads that goes on and on and on......
 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by cpobst
I'm gonna take a shot in the dark and predict this thread will turn out to be one of those threads that goes on and on and on......
With actual payload stickers???

 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 07:07 PM
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With actual payload stickers???
With GAWR vs GVWR or CDL or something pertaining to that yes.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
Payload stickers....lol Funny what useless information people find interesting. Mine is over 4000 lbs, it is an awesome sticker...
Is a payload sticker useless though?

I know it might not be 100% to the pound accurate.

But…for example…

With a truck being registered in a business name, if I go over my gvwr wont I be in trouble?

Even if my axle or tires are not overloaded, if I take a truck registered at 10,000 gvwr and go to the axle rating and that makes my truck weight 11,000….won’t I be in trouble?

In effect making the stupid yellow sticker somewhat relevant?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by offacough
Well, in my example, the factory sticker hasn’t been taken off, and the cops not only know the GVWR of your truck, they also know to explain to you that 26000lb is your GCWR, not your GVWR.

But whatever. 👍
The yellow sticker is not a legal document, it's nothing more than Ford's guidelines and no DOT cop is going to ever look at it.

GCWR? What?

I give up, not worth it.









 
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Old Mar 17, 2023 | 10:53 PM
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by offacough
That payload is based on your trucks GVWR and the weight as-equipped when delivered.

There are jurisdictions where police will whip out scales and write tickets for exceeding that yellow sticker.

They call it “Legal”, but you can try to negotiate.
So, exactly how would the police determine if you exceeded the payload on the yellow sticker?

Payload = GVWR - curb weight (as the truck was configured at delivery)

Do the police weigh your truck then have you take all your cargo out of the truck and weigh it again? What about any accessories that you added such as a bed cover. Have to remove those too? Oh, curb weight is with a full fuel tank. I guess the police would require that you fill the tank before weighing.

If the police are going to weigh your truck, they will check the weight against the weights listed on the white sticker and/or the weight specified on your registration. The payload on the yellow sticker is meaningless from an enforcement standpoint.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by shawnee1
So, exactly how would the police determine if you exceeded the payload on the yellow sticker?

Payload = GVWR - curb weight (as the truck was configured at delivery)

Do the police weigh your truck then have you take all your cargo out of the truck and weigh it again? What about any accessories that you added such as a bed cover. Have to remove those too? Oh, curb weight is with a full fuel tank. I guess the police would require that you fill the tank before weighing.

If the police are going to weigh your truck, they will check the weight against the weights listed on the white sticker and/or the weight specified on your registration. The payload on the yellow sticker is meaningless from an enforcement standpoint.
from an enforcement standpoint it is but won’t it be close to the actual payload?

meaning it’s taking the registered weight (ex 10,000lbs) and subtracting the weight of your vehicle?

so I’m curious (I’m not a weights expert) if I have a truck registered to my business and it’s an f250 diesel loaded with options and my little sticker says 2250lbs payload

won’t that be pretty close to the amount of weight I can load up before I cross my 10000lb limit? Of which a DOT officer cares very much about?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
Is a payload sticker useless though?

I know it might not be 100% to the pound accurate.

But…for example…

With a truck being registered in a business name, if I go over my gvwr wont I be in trouble?

Even if my axle or tires are not overloaded, if I take a truck registered at 10,000 gvwr and go to the axle rating and that makes my truck weight 11,000….won’t I be in trouble?

In effect making the stupid yellow sticker somewhat relevant?
The simple answer is,,, no

Resist buying into this hype. I ran pick-ups for years making deliveries and we had to go through a scale many days to get to the delivery site. I never ever had a state official look at ANY stickers on the truck besides registered weight with the state and they like to check tire capacity to make sure you are within the tires limit. The story somebody made up about the cops stopping a non commercial vehicle and weighing it are HILARIOUS, that has never happened.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
The simple answer is,,, no

Resist buying into this hype. I ran pick-ups for years making deliveries and we had to go through a scale many days to get to the delivery site. I never ever had a state official look at ANY stickers on the truck besides registered weight with the state and they like to check tire capacity to make sure you are within the tires limit. The story somebody made up about the cops stopping a non commercial vehicle and weighing it are HILARIOUS, that has never happened.
im not talking about an officer pulling over a guy towing with personal truck and his travel trailer.

I’m talking about a business/commercial registered f250

wirh a 10000lb gvwr

where I’ve put 3000lbs in it

wont That likely put me me over my limit?

meaning that yellow sticker is in fact roughly accurate?





im not saying the officer is going to use the printed sticker number to a T and then weigh my possessions

but isn’t it gonna be a damn close guide to how much weight in the form of payload I can add before I’m over my gvwr limit?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 08:40 AM
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What they're warranted for by the manufacturer, what's legal and what they are capable of are 3 different questions with multiple correct answers for 2 of them. The OP is just interested in Ford's warranty rating.

We need a open sticky in every sub here to just so there's a central place everyone can argue about weight ratings and legalities and whether you're gonna kill a busload of nuns when you tow.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr

im not saying the officer is going to use the printed sticker number to a T and then weigh my possessions

but isn’t it gonna be a damn close guide to how much weight in the form of payload I can add before I’m over my gvwr limit?
Yes, the payload on the yellow sticker is close guide as to how much weight you can load into truck and stay below the GVWR. The point of my response to a specific post is that no legal action will be based on the yellow sticker payload. This strays from the OP original intent (I think) which was to see the payload values for the 23's. I'm not sure if the OP expects a difference from previous model years or not.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2023 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rwhjr
im not talking about an officer pulling over a guy towing with personal truck and his travel trailer.

I’m talking about a business/commercial registered f250

wirh a 10000lb gvwr

where I’ve put 3000lbs in it

wont That likely put me me over my limit?

meaning that yellow sticker is in fact roughly accurate?





im not saying the officer is going to use the printed sticker number to a T and then weigh my possessions

but isn’t it gonna be a damn close guide to how much weight in the form of payload I can add before I’m over my gvwr limit?

Answer is still NO, and I gave you a commercial example from many tears of personal experience. Not sure the point in challenging this is you haven't ever done it yourself...

You are off the reservation with this tangent anyway. The OP is not hauling commercial. At the end of the day the stickers are purely informational.
 
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