2.7 Oil Pan Drip Drip. No end in sight.
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Trailering
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corrected the problem in newer 2.7s it'd be worth searching for an oil pan. 
I am lucky and I have have the old oil pan design but i have new Valve Covers in my 2017. Mine is a late production 2017. Hope that makes some sense.
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Trailering
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Some earlier 2.7 owners tried to install the updated pans thinking that it would be their salvation from oil leaks, only to find that oil leaks and blowby happened throughout their engine because they didn't have crankase ventilation from their old style valve covers. Hard lesson to learn I suppose.
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In Done37s post #17, he links the new TSB. It shows how Ford recommends to make minor mods to the new pan so that it can be used on the early 2.7s.
Thanks for finding this Done37, my son-in-law and I are going to tackle his truck in the near future. We were able to find and aftermarket new pan, but now He’s going to get the new gasketed pan. Don’t want to have to do it again for another 100k miles.
Thanks for finding this Done37, my son-in-law and I are going to tackle his truck in the near future. We were able to find and aftermarket new pan, but now He’s going to get the new gasketed pan. Don’t want to have to do it again for another 100k miles.
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2017 Ford F150 2.7 with an oil pan that is leaking. Nothing new and at 164K changing the oil pan because of a leak is understandable. I bought the Truck back in Dec of 2022 knowing it had a leak and planned on fixing it, but to this day 2/23/23 I have not been able to aquire an oil pan. Ford backordered with "tooling issues" and the two aftermarket manufactureres Spectra and Dorman have no date of them becoming available again. I have tried the Ebay's, the Amazon's, and everywhere in between. I even considered reusing my oil pan and buying the gasket that fixes the leak for good, but removing your old pan is quite difficult and likely to get damaged.
Most of you Ford fans already know of this oil pan saga with the 2015 thru 2017 2.7. My local Ford dealer has four F150's sitting in their back lot right now waiting for oil pans.
So anyways, since I've bought my F150 I have only put 50 or so miles on it. Chime in if you are having the same problem, and have you decided to drive it with the oil leak or have you parked it like me?
Also, has anybody found a source for the oil pans that I am not aware of. I would be willing to spend above and beyond the going price.
I appreciate you reading my ramblings.
Most of you Ford fans already know of this oil pan saga with the 2015 thru 2017 2.7. My local Ford dealer has four F150's sitting in their back lot right now waiting for oil pans.
So anyways, since I've bought my F150 I have only put 50 or so miles on it. Chime in if you are having the same problem, and have you decided to drive it with the oil leak or have you parked it like me?
Also, has anybody found a source for the oil pans that I am not aware of. I would be willing to spend above and beyond the going price.
I appreciate you reading my ramblings.
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In Done37s post #17, he links the new TSB. It shows how Ford recommends to make minor mods to the new pan so that it can be used on the early 2.7s.
Thanks for finding this Done37, my son-in-law and I are going to tackle his truck in the near future. We were able to find and aftermarket new pan, but now He’s going to get the new gasketed pan. Don’t want to have to do it again for another 100k miles.
Thanks for finding this Done37, my son-in-law and I are going to tackle his truck in the near future. We were able to find and aftermarket new pan, but now He’s going to get the new gasketed pan. Don’t want to have to do it again for another 100k miles.
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You are correct. This is all new. I misunderstood the first time I was looking this over and though that the new oil pan would need to have a mod done to it. My understanding now is that some engines, likely most, will need the new valve covers.
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I doubt a new pan is coming, or the TSB wouldn’t have been released. My son-in-law needs his 2016 done, and we need to tackle it soon. I have a brand new aftermarket pan, but I think I’d rather do the TSB procedure. Unless I can find evidence that using an aftermarket gasket with the old style pan works.
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Trailering
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I bought a 72 hr subscription to Ford Service Manual. Confirmed that you do not need to make modifications to the updated pan, and you obviously do not apply RTV around the circumference of the pan. With the gasketed pan, you will only need to apply a small amount where the timing case meets the block.
I stated earlier that my 17 has the updated valve covers from a preliminary look under the hood and removing the beauty cover, but I am going to dig in deeper this weekend and remove one of the ignition coils to make sure I have plastic winged thingys around the spark plug holes.
The parts guy at my local Ford Dealer was just amazed that he was not made aware of the TSB and update. I would get your updated pan before they sell out those when this TSB update gets rolling!
I stated earlier that my 17 has the updated valve covers from a preliminary look under the hood and removing the beauty cover, but I am going to dig in deeper this weekend and remove one of the ignition coils to make sure I have plastic winged thingys around the spark plug holes.
The parts guy at my local Ford Dealer was just amazed that he was not made aware of the TSB and update. I would get your updated pan before they sell out those when this TSB update gets rolling!
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I just had my new oil pan installed on my 2016 but they said my valve covers did not need to be replaced because it's not leaking, I'm not convinced. If it is required to be changed then why did they state that it looks fine. What will happen if the new pan is in with the old style valve covers? I read something about positive blow-by. What is that?
I'm going to check tomorrow if I have those extended plastic ribbing.
I'm going to check tomorrow if I have those extended plastic ribbing.
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Positive blow by is pressure inside the engine, greater than atmospheric pressure, that shouldn’t be there. It will push oil past the rings and into the combustion chamber, and cause more vapor than normal to be sucked into the PCV system.