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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Is there any truth to the rumor that the excursion will be discontinued in the near future? If so, is there a specific date?
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Old Dec 8, 2002 | 03:31 PM
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The 2004 model year will be the last for the X. The 2005 SuperDuty will get a complete redesign and Ford is not spending the money to also re-engineer the X for 2005.

The KTP that builds the SD and X is strained on capacity. Ford is only building about 30,000 X's a year, and can easily take up the slack by building more SD's.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2002 | 01:49 PM
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I wonder if the Excursion will ever come back into production ??
 
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 09:18 AM
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You can thank the CAFE standards for the elimination of the Excursion. You can call it a sacrifice to the "enviromentalist wackos" (not sure on spelling). Maybe if we all petition ford, they will reconsider. I have 4 kids and love mine! It's nice to be able to pull just about anything with a hitch and still have room for 6 people, the dog, and all the gear inside!
 
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Old Dec 14, 2002 | 05:29 PM
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I heard a fairly credible rumor today concerning the future of the Excursion from none other than an employee of our local Ford dealership. I hope he didn't let any cats out of the bag, but this is it: Ford is thinking of discontinuing the Excursion, but replacing it with an extended WB Expedition, so as to satiate the demand for high seat-count SUVs. I commented to him that I was surprised Ford hadn't built an F-150 - sized equivalent to the Explorer SportTrac, since the obvious continuation of an F-150 SuperCrew like mine is to open a door to the bed. Then, of course, we'd be likely to see such monstronsities as the Chevy Avalanche and its Cadillac clone, as the so-called SUT market matured. I'm still glad to have a real truck, though. Make no bones about it. Metal bumpers are inherent to a decent automotive product.

Bo.

I'm a Ford Truck Man--why is this an issue, even?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 11:29 AM
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I hear the same rumors. One that the EXPY will grow one foot and get the new diesel 6.0. The second is ford will re-design the 150 and add a second gen 6.0. Some rumor that this will be an ew platform for an SUV. I'd rather have the X, 7.3 period, end of discussion. AS for gettting Ford's ear, you need 200,000 buyers before they blink.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2002 | 06:08 PM
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>AS for gettting Ford's
>ear, you need 200,000 buyers before they blink.

It does not make any sence for Ford to discontinue the Excrusion. First off, Ford sells far more Excrusions then they sell of the new Thunderbird or ZX2 (or what the escort sport was remaned to). I have seen quite a few Excrusions running around where I live. True, they are not the most populator vehicle, however they are more populator that an lot of other production vehicles.

Second, it is the only thing that Ford had to compeate with the Chevy Suburbin. The Expedition does not even come close, even if they were to make it a foot longer. And what about the V-10 engine?? That engine is populator partly because of the Excrusion. Will they have to discontinue the V-10 engine because they discontinued the Excrusion and the demand is not strong enougth in their other models??

And finally, third, as for the enviormental standards, why is the Chevy Suburbin passing?? It seems that there is something that Ford could do to make the Excrusion pass?? After all, they are working on a lot of "green" technologys for their other models.

Ford would have to be crazy to end production of the Excrusion. Even if for nothing else, it proves that Ford really can build a full-size SUV that can compeat with the compeation, instead of just giving up and saying "we just are not capible of doing it."

Just my thoughts of the matter.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 12:15 AM
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The Chevy Suburban weighs much less and is more economical. It is mostly the stupid environmentalist people who are the cause for the death of the Excursion.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 08:18 AM
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I have a 2000 Limited V-10 and my gas mileage is not much worse than my old 97 Chevy Tahoe 5.7 Vortech 350. I would assume a Suburban is not much better.

Also, someone posted that Ford is discontinuing the Excursion b/c they don't want to cut into new Expy/Navigator sales. A fully loaded Expy is more than the Excursion.

Ford also might be making a move to reduce production of SUVs. They are a hot product right now but I can remember several years back if you had a conversion van man you where it. Suburbans where around then and weren't selling very well. Something new is and will come along. I am a perfect example of a person who drives the car b/c he likes it not out of necessity. I have a wife and a dog. We could get by with a 2 door Honda but we don't. I have always liked big cars and always will!

I am going to keep my X until the wheels fall off!


Sorry for the rambling!



 
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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 09:04 AM
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Guys & Ladies,

The way I see it, since the Excursion is based on the 99-02 Super Duty F250 platform, and many of the engine, suspension, and body parts are the same--or only slightly different; there won't be a problem with parts availability for years to come.

In fact, many of the aftermarket accessories fit both the F250 and Excursion.

If you like the Excursion, go ahead and buy--used perhaps since the Excursion doesn't do so hot for resale value. Check the prices of 2001-2002 low mileage Excursions ($20k--$30k) vs new (high $40s to low $50s).

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Old Dec 27, 2002 | 05:36 PM
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>And finally, third, as for the enviormental standards, why is the Chevy Suburbin passing?? It seems that there is something that Ford could do to make the Excrusion pass?

It's an ExCURsion. It already does pass. All Excursions are a LEV vehicles.


>The Chevy Suburban weighs much less and is more economical.

Economical?? You're talking the 3/4ton Sub, right? That 8.1L is hardly emmission compliant, the lighter weight & shorter wheelbase kills in as a tow vehicle in comparison and it has no diesel option.

If you looks closely to a 1999 Suburban 2500 and an Excursion (the year (not model year) in which it was first built) you'll see that the Excursion was directly pitted aginst that design, in which it was far superiour.

 
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Old Dec 30, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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I will be honest , I am a Chevy man thru and thru...And when the time came for me to get a tow vechile for the racecar , i went straight to Chevy for a 2500 Suburban. When i found out that the Duramax wasnt available in the burban , i walked right across the street to Ford and picked out my Excursion. I think they are great trucks , and really dont see why they are gonna be going away. Only postive thing about them killing the X is that they wont re-design it - and i will be stuck driving a "old" truck
 
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Old Jan 1, 2003 | 01:03 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 02:24 AM
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I don't own an Excursion and the biggest vehicle I've ever driven is my current half ton truck, but in the latest edition of 4-wheel and Offroad they have a 2003 Excursion Limited 4wd, with the new 6 liter engine and in their test (no EPA numbers were available at the time) the truck only got 7.12 mpg. For a brand new vehicle thats.. well.. I'd --reeeaaally- have to love driving it to withstand that kind of milage, but then again my light truck doesn't get much better than that.

I just don't think people were ready for the Excursion... remember back in the mid 90's when the Suburban blossomed, the economy was so much better, people indulged in luxuries.. the X came at a time when the economy is downturning somewhat, people are spending less.. Ah well.
 
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Old Jan 24, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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The fuel economy for the Excursion w/6.0 PSD was "artificially low" (7.12 mpg I think they said) as was that of the other trucks/SUVs in the article. By my memory of the article, the mileage represented offroad/on-road/idling time use. I believe the authors acknowledged that the Excursion was their favorite place to relax in due to the interior and AC, which likely means that they spent a lot of time just "chillin' and idlin'" which would run down the fuel economy of any truck or car.

I'm not saying the Excursion is not a gas guzzling behemoth (it is), especially in the V10 which I drive. I am saying that for the "average driver" their mileage, gas or diesel, would be higher than the 7.12 that was quoted.

I'm getting 13 city/15 hwy consistently. That's not good; however, it isn't out of line with the 2500 Series Suburban/Tahoe XL.

This leads me to believe the reason the Excursion is being canceled is that it didn't compete as favorably against the Suburban as originally thought. The Suburban is a household name for large SUV, which is a powerful thing in marketing.

The Excursion got slapped with a lot of negatives upon its release, which does nothing to help sales/popularity with the masses.

Of course in my case, I love my Excursion because I don't see it on every street corner. Its a bit more "exclusive" because of its relatively rarity vs. the Suburban by my book.

Rationalization, yes, oh well,

Karl
 
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