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Old Dec 18, 2022 | 10:21 PM
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Quality: Going to be a while

According to the Ford CEO, going to be a while before they get the quality problems fixed.
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/ford-ceo...220800166.html
 
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Political banter in SD forum (Tom)

These NGOs run by satanic technohumanists are pushing the EV agenda as part of the march towards agenda 2030.

"Climate change" is the vehicle for obtaining "Build Back Better" and the "own nothing and be happy" for the miserable WEF globalists who seek global NGO communism by 2030.

We don't have the grid, we don't have the resources, we don't have the money for widespread EV.

What will happen is the EV projects will be funded with phantom dollars, accelerating our inflation and devaluing our individual worth.

Early EV adopters will multiply until the brownouts start (already happening).

Govt then steps in and uses as excuse to limit travel or car ownership. Creates "15 min cities" to "avoid hurting our grid". Restricts vehicle ownership to municipalities only.

This method of give a yard and take a mile is how it works.
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​​​​​​So, for that reason, Ford can screw off until the company is directed by a man who could give two sh*"* what the WEF or NGOs think.






 
Old Dec 18, 2022 | 11:35 PM
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The new 6.8 V8 and 10R100 combo should be fun to watch how it shakes out.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 12:15 AM
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A lot of it is because Farley is putting all of his focus on EVs. He is rushing it prematurely and paying the price dearly in quality. He also stated he diverted chips and supplier resources to EVs at the expense of other vehicles.

​​​​​​​I've learned the entire Farley family are just like his comedian actor cousin...clowns.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​
 
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 01:15 AM
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A lot of it is because Farley is putting all of his focus on EVs. He is rushing it prematurely and paying the price dearly in quality. He also stated he diverted chips and supplier resources to EVs at the expense of other vehicles.

I've learned the entire Farley family are just like his comedian actor cousin...clowns.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​
slow down there, at least Chris was funny aside from his personal demons.

but yes, J. Farley openly said he will divert profit from ICE vehicles to subsidize EVs, lamenting that he couldn’t electrify SD yesterday. So will he put money and focus back into ICE vehicles in the name of quality? Who knows.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2022 | 11:05 AM
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ON edit: just reopened. That one turned sideways in a hurry. Everyone here knows that we’re a tech forum instead of a political one. If you want to discuss government policy or their underlying motivations, I’d suggest creating a Twitter or Facebook account.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by travlingman
According to the Ford CEO, going to be a while before they get the quality problems fixed.
https://www.yahoo.com/autos/ford-ceo...220800166.html
So Jim Farley (Ford CEO) hires Josh Halliburton (Executive Director of Quality) in March of this year and now he's saying "Fixing quality is my No. 1 priority ... It is the most important initiative in the whole company. And it’s going to take several years." Bill Ford should personally escort this guy out the back door ASAP.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by twobelugas
slow down there, at least Chris was funny aside from his personal demons.

but yes, J. Farley openly said he will divert profit from ICE vehicles to subsidize EVs, lamenting that he couldn’t electrify SD yesterday. So will he put money and focus back into ICE vehicles in the name of quality? Who knows.
Did he really say that? LOL. If they did this tomorrow they'd lose nearly all of their Super Duty buyers. Some would still buy them sure, but lamenting he hasn't done it yesterday? Flatout insanity and or virtue signaling at it's finest.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2022 | 03:19 PM
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Good to hear!
Quality has fallen way off in the last eight or so years.
 
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Did he really say that? LOL. If they did this tomorrow they'd lose nearly all of their Super Duty buyers. Some would still buy them sure, but lamenting he hasn't done it yesterday? Flatout insanity and or virtue signaling at it's finest.
I can't find the quote but a few months back it made the round here. That combined with the massive layoffs in the ICE division is the writing on the wall for long time Ford employees who aren't digital marketing gurus or subscription specialists.

Don't get me wrong, I realize that the other 1.5 domestic makers are shifting that way as well so it is no surprise, but only Ford is splitting its ICE division off and making it perfectly clear that ICE buyers need to get ready to pay more so they can squeeze Ford Blue for every last drop of blood before kicking it to the curb the way they did to the old Rangers and Crown Vics.
 
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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 12:38 PM
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You'd have to be nuts to plunk down big money for anything they build nowadays.
 
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Here's some more reporting on Fords quality and the financial impact. Has Farley been fired yet?

Got to speak with my cousin who's been a Ford tech since 1994 and he reported in all his years he had no problems getting warranty work completed, but now there's a bunch of red tape he has to deal with for a warranty repair. It's so bad that after he diags the problem he has to set the vehicle to the side and wait for Ford to approve the repair.

 
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 01:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Compression-Ignition
Did he really say that? LOL. If they did this tomorrow they'd lose nearly all of their Super Duty buyers. Some would still buy them sure, but lamenting he hasn't done it yesterday? Flatout insanity and or virtue signaling at it's finest.
Farley directly told the ICE truck division that their job is to get the EV side on it's feet by selling ICE trucks. He then told them their services will not be needed once that happens.

​​​​​​​Farley is a cancer on Ford.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FishOnOne
Here's some more reporting on Fords quality and the financial impact. Has Farley been fired yet?

Got to speak with my cousin who's been a Ford tech since 1994 and he reported in all his years he had no problems getting warranty work completed, but now there's a bunch of red tape he has to deal with for a warranty repair. It's so bad that after he diags the problem he has to set the vehicle to the side and wait for Ford to approve the repair.
I can believe it... I picked up my 22 on a Friday... I'll admit I didn't look it over as well as I should have. Later I found a few spots in the paint that needed to be fixed. I took it to the dealership the next week and showed them the spots, but they had to file it with Ford to get approved to do the work. It took 3 months. It began by them telling me that they submitted the photos to Ford and had to wait on approval... I believe that actually happened, but I also believe that the service manager let it fall through and never followed up on it unless I was standing in front of him... He is no longer the service manager, but even still I wonder how long it would have taken with a service manager that actually makes an effort.

Then, it had to go back the second week we had it because the tailgate was getting stuck... My wife had to take it in since I was at work, but they tried to charge her to "lube and adjust" the tailgate. She stood her ground and made them file it as warranty repair on a 2 week old truck.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 03:39 PM
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Over 4 billion a year just in warranty claims says alot....

 
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Old Dec 26, 2022 | 04:52 PM
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