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I presume you're talking about the catalytic converter? If you've gone through more than a couple, then there is something else going on like faulty O2 sensors or lead in the gas or something.
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You really should have just updated this thread when the count was 5.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19959135
That dealer isn't finding the problem. Have you tried to elevate this with Ford as suggested?
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19959135
That dealer isn't finding the problem. Have you tried to elevate this with Ford as suggested?
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5th Wheeling
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After the 5th converter I took it to a local shop ask to check every thing misfire O2 fuel trim look for anyting came back good ..this week I went to another ford dealer, they told me I need 2 converter and I need to go to dealer that put in the 1st 5... they gave me a phone# to call ford costumer care service while I am there
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Sounds fishy to me. Definitely call that 
customer service number.
Catalytic converters are a big ticket item and any dealer technician that knows his stuff wouldn't just keep putting new converters on the truck.
customer service number.Catalytic converters are a big ticket item and any dealer technician that knows his stuff wouldn't just keep putting new converters on the truck.
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Have you been putting any additives in you fuel, like Seafoam, Marvel Mystery Oil, STP or similar? are you having to add oil between changes, but notice no leaks? Are you using 5w30 semi synthetic oil at a minimum? Do you buy your fuel from a Top Tier rated gas station or just use the cheapest stuff you can find?
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5th Wheeling
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going to ford 11 15 2022 no additives no oil between change no leaks 5-30 semi syn..yes B-P gas ... last 12 months Marathon ethanol free gas
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I need to see what the original issue is that led to all this nonsense.
No codes, go look for a problem etc, does not cut it.
How would you like your Doctor to go about your medical support in the same way?
There has to be a problem first, then the search, then the cure.
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Here, how was the Cats determined to be a fault?
What led to that determination?
Are they not performing?
Are they internally melted and blocking exhaust flow?
The OP is showing a lot of Ignorance about all this!
Sometimes people have to be challenged a bit to get them to think a bit deeper.
No codes, go look for a problem etc, does not cut it.
How would you like your Doctor to go about your medical support in the same way?
There has to be a problem first, then the search, then the cure.
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Here, how was the Cats determined to be a fault?
What led to that determination?
Are they not performing?
Are they internally melted and blocking exhaust flow?
The OP is showing a lot of Ignorance about all this!
Sometimes people have to be challenged a bit to get them to think a bit deeper.
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5th Wheeling
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not good at this but I agree with yall...today dealer said I need 2 convereters,custumer service said to call when they install them...as befor they can not find any thing wrong.. dealer said I need to use chevron 93 octane ...left dealer 100miles engine light is still off
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You don't need to use 93 octane with a 2.7. Something else is going on. I would pull the plugs and inspect them, their condition can tell you a lot. Is your engine logging any misfires? Are the coils still OEM?
The cats going bad are a symptom, usually of what may seem to be a non related issue. Misfires, timing, oil consumption, etc. Unless they are using cheap aftermarket cats and charging Ford for the OEM ones. OEM cats are going to be a one piece factory welded unit all with a similar finish. Cheap aftermarket ones will look like they were welded in, you will usually see an ugly weld with spatter around it.
You'll want 2 new OEM cats and any issues that may have caused failure resolved. After 80k miles, your emissions warranty is up and you will have to pay for your repairs. If you don't like what you are being told at the dealer, tell the service manager that you want a Ford product representative to get involved.
The cats going bad are a symptom, usually of what may seem to be a non related issue. Misfires, timing, oil consumption, etc. Unless they are using cheap aftermarket cats and charging Ford for the OEM ones. OEM cats are going to be a one piece factory welded unit all with a similar finish. Cheap aftermarket ones will look like they were welded in, you will usually see an ugly weld with spatter around it.
You'll want 2 new OEM cats and any issues that may have caused failure resolved. After 80k miles, your emissions warranty is up and you will have to pay for your repairs. If you don't like what you are being told at the dealer, tell the service manager that you want a Ford product representative to get involved.
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95% of the time we use plain old regular (87 octane in these parts), including up/down the mountain. The 5% of the time when we tow our TT, we will put in premium. Seems to be the way to go. I do notice that when we have left over premium after towing, we might get another MPG more than we would normally get. I attribute that to the probability that the timing might be slightly more advanced than when we're using regular.