2008 6.4 Front cover replacement
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5th Wheeling
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2008 6.4 Front cover replacement
Long time reader, but first time posting for info.
I got this 2008 F350 CC4x4 Lariat with the 6.4 and 221000 miles from a friend. He was the original owner. it went into limp mode on him, & some shop he dealt with told him it needed an engine. A little bit of diagnostics & I found cyl1 intake rocker arm was broken. I replaced all the rocker arms, push rods & valve bridges on both sides. Runs great now. In the process of the work I found, the front seal is leaking pretty bad, & pulled the water pump, & there is some cavitation damage. SO, I am getting ready to do the front cover along with a lot of other Maintenace items, e.g. replace the radiator (its leaking) intercooler hoses, radiator hoses.
Here's my questions:
TIA
NT
I got this 2008 F350 CC4x4 Lariat with the 6.4 and 221000 miles from a friend. He was the original owner. it went into limp mode on him, & some shop he dealt with told him it needed an engine. A little bit of diagnostics & I found cyl1 intake rocker arm was broken. I replaced all the rocker arms, push rods & valve bridges on both sides. Runs great now. In the process of the work I found, the front seal is leaking pretty bad, & pulled the water pump, & there is some cavitation damage. SO, I am getting ready to do the front cover along with a lot of other Maintenace items, e.g. replace the radiator (its leaking) intercooler hoses, radiator hoses.
Here's my questions:
- Has any used IPR to rebuild their front cover?
- Feedback and info on:
- Melling oil pump, good or bad?
- What brand of intake hose?
- best vendor to buy parts from
- How can you tell the upgraded radiator hoses? 2 o-rings?
TIA
NT
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I've been around the block for awhile and the consensus in the forums from the most educated point to staying with OEM fomoco parts.
Sure they're pricey, but how many times do you want to try this or that.
Shaving costs by going outside does feel good from the onset. Long term effect of getting OEM will keep your sphincter from rupturing on long trips. Well worth it IMHO.
Denny
Sure they're pricey, but how many times do you want to try this or that.
Shaving costs by going outside does feel good from the onset. Long term effect of getting OEM will keep your sphincter from rupturing on long trips. Well worth it IMHO.
Denny
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5th Wheeling
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I've been around the block for awhile and the consensus in the forums from the most educated point to staying with OEM fomoco parts.
Sure they're pricey, but how many times do you want to try this or that.
Shaving costs by going outside does feel good from the onset. Long term effect of getting OEM will keep your sphincter from rupturing on long trips. Well worth it IMHO.
Denny
Sure they're pricey, but how many times do you want to try this or that.
Shaving costs by going outside does feel good from the onset. Long term effect of getting OEM will keep your sphincter from rupturing on long trips. Well worth it IMHO.
Denny
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The front cover can be weld buildup and machined repaired if you have a local machine shop willing to do the work (the good machine shops around here have such a backlog of high paying work that they often turn down smaller projects like this, maybe different in your area).
As for the double o-ring hose ends, the ones with double o-rings hose ends are a different color that than the single o-ring. One is white and the the other black, don't remember which one is which off the top of my head, just look at the one you have now, if its a single o-ring and black, then the double o-ring one will be white or vice versa.
The updated/ double o-ring hoses are part numbers AC3Z-8260-A for the upper hose and AC3Z-8286-A for the lower hose.
As for where to buy parts, well,,,the 6.4 years have kind of been forgotten about by the aftermarket (only three model years and they were/ are kinda big POS engines anyway). So AFAIK there is no one good single place to get parts from, just have to dig around the internet.
-Melling is a good oil pump .
-Mishimoto makes a good set of intake hoses or boots as they're most often called ( not to mention a good radiator with a good warranty).
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As for the double o-ring hose ends, the ones with double o-rings hose ends are a different color that than the single o-ring. One is white and the the other black, don't remember which one is which off the top of my head, just look at the one you have now, if its a single o-ring and black, then the double o-ring one will be white or vice versa.
The updated/ double o-ring hoses are part numbers AC3Z-8260-A for the upper hose and AC3Z-8286-A for the lower hose.
As for where to buy parts, well,,,the 6.4 years have kind of been forgotten about by the aftermarket (only three model years and they were/ are kinda big POS engines anyway). So AFAIK there is no one good single place to get parts from, just have to dig around the internet.
-Melling is a good oil pump .
-Mishimoto makes a good set of intake hoses or boots as they're most often called ( not to mention a good radiator with a good warranty).
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5th Wheeling
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The front cover can be weld buildup and machined repaired if you have a local machine shop willing to do the work (the good machine shops around here have such a backlog of high paying work that they often turn down smaller projects like this, maybe different in your area).
As for the double o-ring hose ends, the ones with double o-rings hose ends are a different color that than the single o-ring. One is white and the the other black, don't remember which one is which off the top of my head, just look at the one you have now, if its a single o-ring and black, then the double o-ring one will be white or vice versa.
The updated/ double o-ring hoses are part numbers AC3Z-8260-A for the upper hose and AC3Z-8286-A for the lower hose.
As for where to buy parts, well,,,the 6.4 years have kind of been forgotten about by the aftermarket (only three model years and they were/ are kinda big POS engines anyway). So AFAIK there is no one good single place to get parts from, just have to dig around the internet.
-Melling is a good oil pump .
-Mishimoto makes a good set of intake hoses or boots as they're most often called ( not to mention a good radiator with a good warranty).
...
As for the double o-ring hose ends, the ones with double o-rings hose ends are a different color that than the single o-ring. One is white and the the other black, don't remember which one is which off the top of my head, just look at the one you have now, if its a single o-ring and black, then the double o-ring one will be white or vice versa.
The updated/ double o-ring hoses are part numbers AC3Z-8260-A for the upper hose and AC3Z-8286-A for the lower hose.
As for where to buy parts, well,,,the 6.4 years have kind of been forgotten about by the aftermarket (only three model years and they were/ are kinda big POS engines anyway). So AFAIK there is no one good single place to get parts from, just have to dig around the internet.
-Melling is a good oil pump .
-Mishimoto makes a good set of intake hoses or boots as they're most often called ( not to mention a good radiator with a good warranty).
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Mountain Pass
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If you're replacing the radiator with any type you either need a front frame hitch or Mischimoto's radiator core support brace to the tune of $400 or ANY radiator replacement will break as well from radiator core support flex.
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I had a full Buckstop bumper with an integrated front hitch on an 08 F350 (bumper was 1/4 inch gusseted plate steel, heavy as all heck), still popped a leak in the end tank of the stock radiator after a little ,exuberate, pulling in 4x4 low trying to get a tree stump out. Bit the bullet and put a version2 Mishimoto radiator in it. That radiator was still in the truck when I sold it.
I personally think the crappy body mounts under the rad support do more to cause the radiator end tanks to leak than any frame twisting the front receiver hitch would prevent. I also eventually replaced the body mounts , twice, don't buy the Dorman ones unless you want to replace the mounts again a year later.
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I personally think the crappy body mounts under the rad support do more to cause the radiator end tanks to leak than any frame twisting the front receiver hitch would prevent. I also eventually replaced the body mounts , twice, don't buy the Dorman ones unless you want to replace the mounts again a year later.
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5th Wheeling
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So quick update:
Front cover &/ oil pump are on nation backorder, with no eta. Found quite a few lists for the parts, but when I called, they didn't have it in stock. I have tried to find the Melling oil pump as an alternative, out of stock everywhere. I did call IPR Research, they can make the repairs to the front cover for $325. I am probably just go that route, and the person I talked to at IPR, said they can check out the oil pump, to confirm it's still within spec.
Front cover &/ oil pump are on nation backorder, with no eta. Found quite a few lists for the parts, but when I called, they didn't have it in stock. I have tried to find the Melling oil pump as an alternative, out of stock everywhere. I did call IPR Research, they can make the repairs to the front cover for $325. I am probably just go that route, and the person I talked to at IPR, said they can check out the oil pump, to confirm it's still within spec.
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5th Wheeling
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so, just an update
bought the mishimoto radiator brace off of amazon, $405 shipped. latest problem; I had a local rad shop try to clean out the intercooler ( it had a lot of oil in it) previous owner had the turbo replaced about 10000 miles ago. Intercooler had leak. IPR is making the repairs to the front cover.
I am installing a coolant filter set up, Is it ok to make the inlet line connection on the heater return line, on the drivers side?
TIA
bought the mishimoto radiator brace off of amazon, $405 shipped. latest problem; I had a local rad shop try to clean out the intercooler ( it had a lot of oil in it) previous owner had the turbo replaced about 10000 miles ago. Intercooler had leak. IPR is making the repairs to the front cover.
I am installing a coolant filter set up, Is it ok to make the inlet line connection on the heater return line, on the drivers side?
TIA
Mountain Pass
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I had a full Buckstop bumper with an integrated front hitch on an 08 F350 (bumper was 1/4 inch gusseted plate steel, heavy as all heck), still popped a leak in the end tank of the stock radiator after a little ,exuberate, pulling in 4x4 low trying to get a tree stump out. Bit the bullet and put a version2 Mishimoto radiator in it. That radiator was still in the truck when I sold it.
I personally think the crappy body mounts under the rad support do more to cause the radiator end tanks to leak than any frame twisting the front receiver hitch would prevent. I also eventually replaced the body mounts , twice, don't buy the Dorman ones unless you want to replace the mounts again a year later.
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I personally think the crappy body mounts under the rad support do more to cause the radiator end tanks to leak than any frame twisting the front receiver hitch would prevent. I also eventually replaced the body mounts , twice, don't buy the Dorman ones unless you want to replace the mounts again a year later.
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I mentioned the front hitch as I saw posts here noting no radiator breakage after installing it.
About when was the version 2 Mishimoto radiator released and do you know how to identify it, including its differences?
Mountain Pass
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