2023 V8 6.8 vs 7.3
Cross-Country
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As long as we have fractional reserve banking people will be able to overextended far beyond what should be reasonable.
Being in the military I was forced to take finance classes as a private because there are so many privates who have never had a job and get approved for a brand new vehicle with 20+% interest
Being in the military I was forced to take finance classes as a private because there are so many privates who have never had a job and get approved for a brand new vehicle with 20+% interest
There's a reason why they are doing what they are doing... and not working as a quant at a hedge fund.
More Turbo
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From: Texas
Just came from a 2018 F-150 5.0L CCSB (395 hp / 400 lb-ft)
Now 2022 F-250 7.3L CCSB (430 hp / 475 lb-ft).
The 5.0L pulled my ~7000 lb travel trailer okay.
The 7.3L pulls MUCH better. A huge change is the stability.
I understand the 3.5L EcoBoost or PowerBoost option have way more power vs 7.3L....BUT stability still wouldn't be there compared to 3/4 ton truck.
Now 2022 F-250 7.3L CCSB (430 hp / 475 lb-ft).
The 5.0L pulled my ~7000 lb travel trailer okay.
The 7.3L pulls MUCH better. A huge change is the stability.
I understand the 3.5L EcoBoost or PowerBoost option have way more power vs 7.3L....BUT stability still wouldn't be there compared to 3/4 ton truck.
Logistics Pro
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From: Everywhere and nowhere
Luckily I had a TSP brief after basic training from someone who worked at the TSP. The people who offered all of the finance briefs I attended were not so great though. One of them sounded like he was being payed by Dave Ramsey to sell his books.
Cargo Master
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From: Ridgway, CO
Right? The second I click the 7.3 option the price jumps almost 7 grand and you are forced into painted bumpers and stupid black wheels along with safety nannies like auto braking and BLISS $1200 each taillights with radar. Exactly the crap one used to be able to avoid by ordering the XL/STX.
I was seriously considering ordering a truck since I did not get what I ordered in '22. Given what I have seen regarding options, the '23 has less appeal than the truck I have. Good Job Ford.
Cargo Master
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From: Michigan
Right? The second I click the 7.3 option the price jumps almost 7 grand and you are forced into painted bumpers and stupid black wheels along with safety nannies like auto braking and BLISS $1200 each taillights with radar. Exactly the crap one used to be able to avoid by ordering the XL/STX.
I was seriously considering ordering a truck since I did not get what I ordered in '22. Given what I have seen regarding options, the '23 has less appeal than the truck I have. Good Job Ford.
I was seriously considering ordering a truck since I did not get what I ordered in '22. Given what I have seen regarding options, the '23 has less appeal than the truck I have. Good Job Ford.
Fleet Mechanic
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You're right you can but it makes no sense as you'll be up to the price of a Lariat with a lot less options if you add much to your XL.
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Cargo Master
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From: Ridgway, CO
Despite some complaints, last years build was a LOT more ala carte. The '22 STX I had ordered was pretty much the same price as the XLT I ended up buying. Difference was the XL/STX had more features than the XLT, or at least more features I wanted instead of features in forced packages. The STX is no longer "good value". I think you are right, might as well jump all the way to a Lariat...
Fleet Mechanic
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Despite some complaints, last years build was a LOT more ala carte. The '22 STX I had ordered was pretty much the same price as the XLT I ended up buying. Difference was the XL/STX had more features than the XLT, or at least more features I wanted instead of features in forced packages. The STX is no longer "good value". I think you are right, might as well jump all the way to a Lariat...
Fleet Mechanic
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I think its important to note too, the majority of people buying and ordering vehicles is fine with what Ford is doing, its the forum people and FB groups that use their trucks for specific reasons or need XYZ but don't need ABC. Ford caters to the majority and for a lot of us that sucks, but that's what makes financial sense as well for any company. Of course Ford isn't going to say we're doing this to maximize profits but that's exactly what they are doing.
Cross-Country
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Im really disappointed in the way Ford seems to be going. Its as if they have forgotten that these truck sales are what pays the bills. Ford has owned the work industry for years, but if they try to option everyone out of an XL to make higher profits, they are quickly going to learn most business will just go to another brand. Then see how you pay for all these EVs when super duty sales tank!
Logistics Pro
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Right? The second I click the 7.3 option the price jumps almost 7 grand and you are forced into painted bumpers and stupid black wheels along with safety nannies like auto braking and BLISS $1200 each taillights with radar. Exactly the crap one used to be able to avoid by ordering the XL/STX.
I was seriously considering ordering a truck since I did not get what I ordered in '22. Given what I have seen regarding options, the '23 has less appeal than the truck I have. Good Job Ford.
I was seriously considering ordering a truck since I did not get what I ordered in '22. Given what I have seen regarding options, the '23 has less appeal than the truck I have. Good Job Ford.
I’m on the fence if I want to order a RCLB next year depending on how the 6.8 first year works out but I was REALLY looking forward to an XL RCLB 7.3 with the 10r140 and 4.30 with or without STX before STX became the “we know what’s good for you and you pay 7k” package. If Ram keeps its tradesman available with the Cummins without adding bunch of crap I’m going to get a Ram 3500 instead being the same price as a 7.3 with all the electronic overlords.
Cargo Master
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From: Ridgway, CO
yeah, the compulsory addition of the electronic nannnies if you want a 7.3 is some grade F bovine manure.
I’m on the fence if I want to order a RCLB next year depending on how the 6.8 first year works out but I was REALLY looking forward to an XL RCLB 7.3 with the 10r140 and 4.30 with or without STX before STX became the “we know what’s good for you and you pay 7k” package. If Ram keeps its tradesman available with the Cummins without adding bunch of crap I’m going to get a Ram 3500 instead being the same price as a 7.3 with all the electronic overlords.
I’m on the fence if I want to order a RCLB next year depending on how the 6.8 first year works out but I was REALLY looking forward to an XL RCLB 7.3 with the 10r140 and 4.30 with or without STX before STX became the “we know what’s good for you and you pay 7k” package. If Ram keeps its tradesman available with the Cummins without adding bunch of crap I’m going to get a Ram 3500 instead being the same price as a 7.3 with all the electronic overlords.
