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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 06:44 AM
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Is this normal?

My truck started blowing black smoke a few months ago but only at low rpm's. Cruising and going to pass someone or starting from a stop to hard. Those kind of things. It clears up when it gets above 2-2200rpms or when it down shifts or the converter locks up. Seems to run normal and no other signs of an issue. The truck is deleted and proven tuned with a single 50hp clean tune. New cold side pipe, new fuel filters, new map sensor and cac and intake sensor cleaned. I talked to proven they said it's no way the tune and to go through the air and fuel on the truck. Everything seems fine no boost leaks I can find and everything is very clean. Last night I found this and I was curious if this is normal?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 06:46 AM
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Sorry here's the pics
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 07:07 AM
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what in the picture are you specifically trying to point oit.....circle it in red or something.

have you checked your map sensor?

 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 07:14 AM
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Map sensor is brand new. I was referring to the oil at the opening of the turbo
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 07:21 AM
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The oil at the opening of the turbo is likely due to the crank case vent routing back to the intake. That wouldn't cause the black smoke though. I would imagine that's due to the tune being over fueled. Does it smoke on a lower powered tune?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Bair1218
Map sensor is brand new. I was referring to the oil at the opening of the turbo
the oil is a by product of the self leveling oil system

as oil gets fuel diluted and level rises….

the excess oil gets sucked into the intake via the CCV

there are different levels of concern for oil break down depending if you started with 5W?, 10W?, or 15W?

also miles on the oil is a concern since more thining will occur.

 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 07:57 AM
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So this is ok? Any ideas what could be making me dump black smoke at low rpm's? I also lost about half a mpg and it builds up down below 2200 or so rpm and it will smoke pretty thick black until it takes off or about 2-4 seconds. Would the ccv possibly need replacement? The truck only has 40k miles.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:02 AM
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Soooo did this start with the delete/tune or have you been running it no issue and this just started?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:05 AM
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I've ran the delete and tune for about 6k miles with no issue. then I noticed this after an oil change and towing my camper about 1k miles.
 
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
the oil is a by product of the self leveling oil system

as oil gets fuel diluted and level rises….

the excess oil gets sucked into the intake via the CCV

there are different levels of concern for oil break down depending if you started with 5W?, 10W?, or 15W?

also miles on the oil is a concern since more thining will occur.
Not to derail but I have heard you mention this a few times but I can find no reference to it and it just doesn't make sense to me. My 7.3 psd had oil in the intake, it never had fuel dilution according to OCA's. The OCA's that I have seen on the newer 6.7's also show almost no fuel dilution. I think it is just that the oil gets vaporized when it gets hot and then accumulates there as it is purged through the CCV (or something to that effect).
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:10 AM
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Bad injector or turbo are both possibilities. It is getting too much fuel and not enough air. Have you checked your air filter?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:15 AM
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Probably sucked something up in the airfilter or onto the box.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:34 AM
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Reload your tune. If it happened after towing, it is possible some tables got screwed up and it is over fueling now based on prior load. If that doesn't resolve it, then check the fuel system next as you are dumping too much fuel which is either from the tune, or from leaking injectors.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:37 AM
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Ok I'll try that. How would I tell if I have another fuel issue? Like the injectors you're talking about
 
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Old Sep 27, 2022 | 08:45 AM
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If it still smokes after that, then you need to hook a computer up to it to read the injector dwells and pressures. Might be able to do it with Forscan, if not, you will need to take it to a shop that can.
 
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