edelbrock carbs bad??
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edelbrock carbs bad??
greetings from the yukon,
Was recently talking to a friend and we were looking under the hood of the bronco i purchased a few days ago. as soon as he saw the 650 ebrock carb he made an awe thats too bad noise and said i should get rid of it and put a holley on instead.
the truck is new to me and the carb and intake are brand new so i didn't get him to elaborate but now i'm curious. are these carbs a bad purchase and if so why?
tia
Bob
Was recently talking to a friend and we were looking under the hood of the bronco i purchased a few days ago. as soon as he saw the 650 ebrock carb he made an awe thats too bad noise and said i should get rid of it and put a holley on instead.
the truck is new to me and the carb and intake are brand new so i didn't get him to elaborate but now i'm curious. are these carbs a bad purchase and if so why?
tia
Bob
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Me and most anyone wjho I have delt with has had trouble from them, I don't like them cause there a pain to ajust the float.
I have had very god results from holley, I would take a 4-barrel holley over fuel injection, you can't beat the ability to ajust the float level from the top of the carb. And holley gives the best performance for any engine. As we speak I have a 2-barrel 2300 series holley carb in the carb-dip so I can replace it with the worn out motorcraft on my 82.
But, as long as it doesent give any problems, you could just leave it there untill you decide to beef up the engine. I am looking at that new holley truck-avenger carb. I'm buying one for my bronco when I rebuild the 302 in it.
Good luck
I have had very god results from holley, I would take a 4-barrel holley over fuel injection, you can't beat the ability to ajust the float level from the top of the carb. And holley gives the best performance for any engine. As we speak I have a 2-barrel 2300 series holley carb in the carb-dip so I can replace it with the worn out motorcraft on my 82.
But, as long as it doesent give any problems, you could just leave it there untill you decide to beef up the engine. I am looking at that new holley truck-avenger carb. I'm buying one for my bronco when I rebuild the 302 in it.
Good luck
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Originally posted by BroncoRoadKill
Me and most anyone wjho I have delt with has had trouble from them, I don't like them cause there a pain to ajust the float.
I have had very god results from holley, I would take a 4-barrel holley over fuel injection, you can't beat the ability to ajust the float level from the top of the carb. And holley gives the best performance for any engine. As we speak I have a 2-barrel 2300 series holley carb in the carb-dip so I can replace it with the worn out motorcraft on my 82.
But, as long as it doesent give any problems, you could just leave it there untill you decide to beef up the engine. I am looking at that new holley truck-avenger carb. I'm buying one for my bronco when I rebuild the 302 in it.
Good luck
Me and most anyone wjho I have delt with has had trouble from them, I don't like them cause there a pain to ajust the float.
I have had very god results from holley, I would take a 4-barrel holley over fuel injection, you can't beat the ability to ajust the float level from the top of the carb. And holley gives the best performance for any engine. As we speak I have a 2-barrel 2300 series holley carb in the carb-dip so I can replace it with the worn out motorcraft on my 82.
But, as long as it doesent give any problems, you could just leave it there untill you decide to beef up the engine. I am looking at that new holley truck-avenger carb. I'm buying one for my bronco when I rebuild the 302 in it.
Good luck
it's working well now except i haven't set up the electric choke. on the drive home the choke would come partially on just whille stopped or gassing up, a little scary to see it use almost 1/4 tank in 20 miles (tie wrap choke open and go). you would think a matching carb / manifold would be the way to go. one thing i like is i found on the web a place (forget where offhand, easy to find though) that has the info for setting up the carb right down to diagrams. think it was an ebrock site.
anyway it's all brand new right now so i'll use it for awhile and get rid of it if it starts to be a pia. truthfully i like the looks of the thing if that counts for anything at all.
see ya
Bob
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i would stick with edelbrock but go to a 600cfm. it will still give you the power you want and it wont suck as much gas as the 650cfm. i would recommend that you stay away from holley unless you like adjusting your carb every time the temperature changes 10 degrees. i am not saying that holley is all bad, they give plenty of power, they can just be a pain in the a**.
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Bob
I'd give it a chance. Setup correctly, I think they are good street carbs. As mentioned, you can get a calibration kit with very good instructions and dial it in to your truck. They can be a little sensitive to excessive fuel pump pressure. They like about 6 pounds. Much more than that and the needle gets blown off the seat causing it to run too rich. Offroad needle and seat kits are available for about 12 bucks or so.
The Edelbrock may not have the wide open throttle potential of some Holleys. But IMO the most Holleys do not have the "just shut the hood and drive" potential that the Edelbrock Performer has.
I'd give it a chance. Setup correctly, I think they are good street carbs. As mentioned, you can get a calibration kit with very good instructions and dial it in to your truck. They can be a little sensitive to excessive fuel pump pressure. They like about 6 pounds. Much more than that and the needle gets blown off the seat causing it to run too rich. Offroad needle and seat kits are available for about 12 bucks or so.
The Edelbrock may not have the wide open throttle potential of some Holleys. But IMO the most Holleys do not have the "just shut the hood and drive" potential that the Edelbrock Performer has.
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I've never had a problem with my edelbrock(s). The floats are a pain to adjust, but I haven't had to adjust mine.
1big79:
Edelbrock hasn't ever made a Performer 650CFM. They come in 500, 600, and 750.
Holley has 650CFM. They are generally double pumpers and are not known for their fuel economy.
Holley has a good carb, but they are a pain to tune if you don't know what you are doing. A lot of the older models got a bad name because of their tendency to blow out power valves.
I've went with edelbrock carbs twice. I've bolted them on, adjusted the idle, and they were ready to go. You probably won't be able to tune the last extra 5HPs out of them, but the ones I have are dependable.
1big79:
Edelbrock hasn't ever made a Performer 650CFM. They come in 500, 600, and 750.
Holley has 650CFM. They are generally double pumpers and are not known for their fuel economy.
Holley has a good carb, but they are a pain to tune if you don't know what you are doing. A lot of the older models got a bad name because of their tendency to blow out power valves.
I've went with edelbrock carbs twice. I've bolted them on, adjusted the idle, and they were ready to go. You probably won't be able to tune the last extra 5HPs out of them, but the ones I have are dependable.
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o.k. whatever bremen 242. i never said edelbrock did make a 650. all i told him that he would get better gas mileage with a 600cfm edelbrock instead of the 650cfm carb. who said i was saying that edelbrock made a 650cfm carb? and i was giving advise about the simplicity of edelbrock as opposed to holley. lets not get bent out of shape now.
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I'd use the edelbrock. Simple carbs. I've heard that a holley can give more power, but I'd still stick with an edelbrock on a truck motor.
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edelbrock carbs
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If you have the documentation for the edlelbrock it isnt too hard to dial in to where you want it.If no documentation it is a pain Edelbrocks website is a big help as is their tech-line-I see the edelbrock a lot like a rochester-If you have the know how and the patience to dial it in it is a strong running carb-If your resources are limited the holley is the way to go-much easier to "backyard tune" and parts are more readily available-something to think about if you are 20 miles out and something takes a dump!!
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I've used them all and Edelbrock or Carter are the best plug/play on the market. You can print the complete owner's manual from Edelbrocks site:
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/index.html
I still run both Holley (2) and one Edelbrock. If you like to mess with carb tuning, get a Holley.
http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/index.html
I still run both Holley (2) and one Edelbrock. If you like to mess with carb tuning, get a Holley.
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I liked my edelbrock that I had on my truck. Right from the package it gave good performance and passed emissions testing with flying colors. It did not like rough trails however and if you plan on offroading, I would not suggest it. It would stall when going through some rough stuff.
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Anybody here go for that Holley Truck-Avenger carb?
I am looking to buy that when I turn my 83 bronco into a baja rig.
4-wheel mag gave it very good review, testing on there 72 bronco.
Just wondering.
I am looking to buy that when I turn my 83 bronco into a baja rig.
4-wheel mag gave it very good review, testing on there 72 bronco.
Just wondering.