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Old May 17, 2022 | 02:16 PM
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ECM upgrade

So I have an 84 7.5L F-350 and I would like to upgrade my ECM to a better, more modern ECM. Any suggestions?
 
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Old May 17, 2022 | 02:42 PM
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You do not have a ECM. You have a 4 barrel holley carb correct? Be thankful you do not have a ECM.
 
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Old May 17, 2022 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
You do not have a ECM. You have a 4 barrel holley carb correct? Be thankful you do not have a ECM.
No, im talking about the ECM, not to be confused with EFI. I'm talking about the computer.
 
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Old May 17, 2022 | 05:07 PM
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That truck has an EEC module to control spark timing... essentially just an electronic ignition system, it was called an engine control system but it didn't have anything to do with fueling. There are no plug-in upgrades for this, if you want something newer you could substitute a complete modern electronic ignition system(electronic box + distributor + wiring harness) but there is no performance to be gained and the new stuff may not be as reliable.... Ford electronics was built to military standards while these days everything is cheap chinese junk.
 
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Old May 19, 2022 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Conanski
That truck has an EEC module to control spark timing... essentially just an electronic ignition system, it was called an engine control system but it didn't have anything to do with fueling. There are no plug-in upgrades for this, if you want something newer you could substitute a complete modern electronic ignition system(electronic box + distributor + wiring harness) but there is no performance to be gained and the new stuff may not be as reliable.... Ford electronics was built to military standards while these days everything is cheap chinese junk.
Are you talking about a EECIII system? I can't find a factory 1984 diagram for the 460, but the 460 would have been used in the higher GVWR trucks. I would be surprised if Ford used the gee-wizz-bang oddball ignition system on a truck that was not required to pass stringent emissions.
 
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Old May 22, 2022 | 12:43 PM
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I just found a 1984 EVTM. The 460 has NO ECM in 1984. You have a Duraspark II ignition system with a Holley 4 barrel carb.
 
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Old May 31, 2022 | 12:37 PM
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Yeah there's nothing to be gained. The EEC unit barely does anything at all. Advance the timing a bit like you would on any old vehicle and you'd gain more performance.


That being said, what about the 86 unit for a 302? That does control fueling. Any upgrades to do there? (Without swapping to a whole new system)
 
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
Yeah there's nothing to be gained. The EEC unit barely does anything at all. Advance the timing a bit like you would on any old vehicle and you'd gain more performance.


That being said, what about the 86 unit for a 302? That does control fueling. Any upgrades to do there? (Without swapping to a whole new system)
He has no EEC unit on his 460 equipped truck.
 
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
He has no EEC unit on his 460 equipped truck.
My mistake. My only experience with the bullnose trucks are 351/302/300 equipped broncos and F150s. I know the carbureted 351w in 84 had a eec unit. (Or whatever it is) but I've always pulled them out completely and used a stand alone distributor.
 
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Originally Posted by 351Cleveland C4
My mistake. My only experience with the bullnose trucks are 351/302/300 equipped broncos and F150s. I know the carbureted 351w in 84 had a eec unit. (Or whatever it is) but I've always pulled them out completely and used a stand alone distributor.
5.0 had a EEC version also. The 5.8 had a EEC version, but then you have the 5.8 HO which did not have EEC. You have 50 state trucks, California certified trucks, trucks made in Canada and then you have the heavier GVWR trucks. All can have different emissions and engine management, but have the same basic mechanical engine underneath. While the smaller engines had many different versions, the 460 stayed with duraspark and a 4 barrel carb till it came out with fuel injection later on in the late 80's.
 
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