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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:33 PM
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PATS Theft light


PATS won’t let me start my excursion. I have tried the wait until the theft light stops and remove key for 30 seconds reset option a dozen times on two different days. The key in driver door reset also. I have left it with batteries disconnected for 48 hours. I got the correct OBD dongle yesterday and show connection with the dongle but FORScan can’t communicate
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:40 PM
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A few weeks ago same issue with my main key which is a generic at the grocery store. My back up also a generic which my mechanic was only able to work 50% of the time- but it worked that time.

Now I am at my family’s ranch probably 30 miles from a dealer, and neither keys are recognized. And the phone internet is super slow

This time I believe there are more relays clicking in the dash and under the hood
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:41 PM
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Speedometer twitch and misc flashing
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:43 PM
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Sorry for the multiple posts but mobile uploads are throttled back out here in bfe
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 01:54 PM
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Would a locksmith be able to reset the system? I was pretty angry when I couldn’t get FORScan to connect

With my present luck I am hesitant to pull the ecm and ship it anywhere. I suspect the ecm was replaced, my mechanics scanner showed California emissions on a truck delivered to a dealer in Freeport Texas. If I swapped in an ecm from a Superduty 7.3 f250/350 of similar vintage from the chart would it just ignore the PATS hardware? Present ECM is an
EBM2

thanks in advance
As summer begins wondering how I bought another black truck
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 02:03 PM
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Subscribed. While I can't help you, I would LOVE to know how to just get rid of the PATS system all together.
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Old May 6, 2022 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtevan
PATS won’t let me start my excursion. I have tried the wait until the theft light stops and remove key for 30 seconds reset option a dozen times on two different days. The key in driver door reset also. I have left it with batteries disconnected for 48 hours. I got the correct OBD dongle yesterday and show connection with the dongle but FORScan can’t communicate
The light will not stop blinking...it will slow down on the flashing for the reset. You may have to insert the key for 10-15 minutes and then turn in the on position for another 2-3 minutes to learn and/or undo what you've done as described here: https://www.truckofmine.com/ford-pat...-how-to-guide/
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 05:07 PM
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I get that error sometimes when I connect FORScan wrong. I have to have the USB/OBD cord connected to the laptop and the OBD port, turn the key to run, then I start FORScan and it connects. That is if your PATS is not preventing the ignition power to come on. I've never experienced a PATS lockout so I don't know. You should have a status light on your OBD connector? showing the port has power?
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 05:14 PM
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Yes a good locksmith should be able to get you fixed up
 
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Ignoring the blinking light, What did you do before the no start that leads you to believe it is a PATS issue ?

using a digital multi meter, disconnect the positive battery interconnect and check voltage of each battery separately.

my guess is you have 1 battery below 12.6v

 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Ignoring the blinking light, What did you do before the no start that leads you to believe it is a PATS issue ?

using a digital multi meter, disconnect the positive battery interconnect and check voltage of each battery separately.

my guess is you have 1 battery below 12.6v
Never seen a low battery trigger the PATS light...
 
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Old May 6, 2022 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bwguardian
Never seen a low battery trigger the PATS light...

i don’t know what triggers the PATs light to blink when the PATs isn’t actually activated but they can and do.

the low battery causes a crank no stark on the 7.3 because the starter doesn’t spin the motor fast enough to get the injectors to fire. Or if low enough voltage you just get a solenoid click like he mentions, that is what made me consider it.
 
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Old May 10, 2022 | 10:09 AM
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I run an Edge Evolution CTS2 on my 2001 7.3 EX and have to reset the PATS every time I change mode from tow to performance. It's annoying but only way I can get it to work.
 
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Originally Posted by pirate4x4_camo
Ignoring the blinking light, What did you do before the no start that leads you to believe it is a PATS issue ?

using a digital multi meter, disconnect the positive battery interconnect and check voltage of each battery separately.

my guess is you have 1 battery below 12.6v
It turns out the driver side was 11.@@ volts. Charged both up to 13 and started fine. Driver side was down to 10 again today

when I started trouble shooting last Tuesday both my cheap meters I leave here were dead. I put each battery separately on my charger and it immediately went to charge complete.
 
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All the modules need 10.6 volts at least or a malfunction happens and lights go on
I agree unless both batteries go low pats should not squalk
 
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