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Cargo Master
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Could be that it uses the Dana M275 instead of the Sterling. The Dana was touted as the beefier of the two but they had some issues discussed at length on the forum. We really need to know more about the configuration to say what the differences are.
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High Capacity Tow Package on the F250 gets you an extra leaf spring, and the Dana Axel.
The Dana is certainly 'beefier' than the Sterling. From Ford the ratings are about the same, but I heard Ford derates the Dana for their applications.
The aftermarket support for the Dana is still almost none existent, while the Sterling has lots of options.
The Dana is certainly 'beefier' than the Sterling. From Ford the ratings are about the same, but I heard Ford derates the Dana for their applications.
The aftermarket support for the Dana is still almost none existent, while the Sterling has lots of options.
Cargo Master
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I was pretty insistent on getting my truck with the Dana. It didn't work out that way. I am pleased to have ended up with a Sterling, my fourth one since 1999.
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The Dana M275 wall thickness issue was at the spring perch, and the repair to existing axles is to just weld the front and back of the perch so that all four sides are welded.
That fix doesnt address the axle tube wall thickness that is lacking, so id stay away from the M275 if you intend to max out payload and axle ratings on any truck. Not sure how many M275s were already manufactured before they corrected the actual design flaw, but id bet trucks into 2023 could have the "fixed" welded spring perch version while they use the rest of them up.
That fix doesnt address the axle tube wall thickness that is lacking, so id stay away from the M275 if you intend to max out payload and axle ratings on any truck. Not sure how many M275s were already manufactured before they corrected the actual design flaw, but id bet trucks into 2023 could have the "fixed" welded spring perch version while they use the rest of them up.
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The Dana M275 wall thickness issue was at the spring perch, and the repair to existing axles is to just weld the front and back of the perch so that all four sides are welded.
That fix doesnt address the axle tube wall thickness that is lacking, so id stay away from the M275 if you intend to max out payload and axle ratings on any truck. Not sure how many M275s were already manufactured before they corrected the actual design flaw, but id bet trucks into 2023 could have the "fixed" welded spring perch version while they use the rest of them up.
That fix doesnt address the axle tube wall thickness that is lacking, so id stay away from the M275 if you intend to max out payload and axle ratings on any truck. Not sure how many M275s were already manufactured before they corrected the actual design flaw, but id bet trucks into 2023 could have the "fixed" welded spring perch version while they use the rest of them up.
of production on 05/15/2021". That is why only certain 2020-2021MY trucks are affected by the recall.
They do have additional wording that is a bit contradictory, but could indicate that weld repaired axles continued to be installed, "Existing rear axle housing stock was corrected via weld repair on the spring seats. New rear axle housing stock with an increased wall thickness design at the spring seats were introduced as the permenant corrective action." But I'm not aware of any 2022MY Dana axles being of the weld repaired variety. So I do not think the thin walled Dana M275 axle is still being used in current, or upcoming production.
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They do have additional wording that is a bit contradictory, but could indicate that weld repaired axles continued to be installed, "Existing rear axle housing stock was corrected via weld repair on the spring seats. New rear axle housing stock with an increased wall thickness design at the spring seats were introduced as the permenant corrective action." But I'm not aware of any 2022MY Dana axles being of the weld repaired variety. So I do not think the thin walled Dana M275 axle is still being used in current, or upcoming production.
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When I first was made aware of said recall, I looked at the spring perches on my 2022 SRW with the Dana M275 and sure enough it had all four sides welded. Build date of that truck was 11/2021. Ive ordered three new trucks since I sold that one and made sure I got the Sterling 10.5 to avoid issues.
Did you post pictures of that in the reacall thread?
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While the Dana/4.30 really cranks up the tow numbers, does that change the rear gawr #? Likely not due to other limitations, tires/psi etc. I looked at a F250 9,900gvw 4.30s rgawr was 6,340lbs.
Looking at payload stickers Dana weights bit more too, which makes sense given 4" tube vs sterling.
Looking at payload stickers Dana weights bit more too, which makes sense given 4" tube vs sterling.
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I imagine they didnt put the welded repaired old stock under the diesels anymore as those have higher tow ratings and or more likely to be maxed out over the gas trucks. My truck was a 7.3L gas.
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While the Dana/4.30 really cranks up the tow numbers, does that change the rear gawr #? Likely not due to other limitations, tires/psi etc. I looked at a F250 9,900gvw 4.30s rgawr was 6,340lbs.
Looking at payload stickers Dana weights bit more too, which makes sense given 4" tube vs sterling.
Looking at payload stickers Dana weights bit more too, which makes sense given 4" tube vs sterling.
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From: Chaz
The HCTP F250 is a 10,800 derated f350 with a lower rear gawr sticker rating.
I think the purpose is so you can get around in places that have restrictions on “1 ton” type of trucks.
If you arent a sticker **** you can also get a 350 srw with various gvwr all the way down to 10,000.
If you dont want the tall 20s and are not pulling a heavy gooseneck or 5th wheel the standard 250 may be a better set up.
On the 350 what you are saying gets the higher sticker gawr.
And also in reality, so yes you are correct in fact. 125 rated tires vs 121/123
I think the purpose is so you can get around in places that have restrictions on “1 ton” type of trucks.
If you arent a sticker **** you can also get a 350 srw with various gvwr all the way down to 10,000.
If you dont want the tall 20s and are not pulling a heavy gooseneck or 5th wheel the standard 250 may be a better set up.
And also in reality, so yes you are correct in fact. 125 rated tires vs 121/123
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When I first was made aware of said recall, I looked at the spring perches on my 2022 SRW with the Dana M275 and sure enough it had all four sides welded. Build date of that truck was 11/2021. Ive ordered three new trucks since I sold that one and made sure I got the Sterling 10.5 to avoid issues.
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The Dana M275 wall thickness issue was at the spring perch, and the repair to existing axles is to just weld the front and back of the perch so that all four sides are welded.
That fix doesnt address the axle tube wall thickness that is lacking, so id stay away from the M275 if you intend to max out payload and axle ratings on any truck. Not sure how many M275s were already manufactured before they corrected the actual design flaw, but id bet trucks into 2023 could have the "fixed" welded spring perch version while they use the rest of them up.
That fix doesnt address the axle tube wall thickness that is lacking, so id stay away from the M275 if you intend to max out payload and axle ratings on any truck. Not sure how many M275s were already manufactured before they corrected the actual design flaw, but id bet trucks into 2023 could have the "fixed" welded spring perch version while they use the rest of them up.
