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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 01:31 PM
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I've only posted half a dozen times on this exact question....

My two cents? The stock one (and even the "beefed up" oem stabilizer) is junk and it's only worthy location is a dumpster. They all have a dead spot in them where the first .5" of movement is not dampened as it's almost like it has an internal air bubble. Dual stabilizers are an absolute waste of money. Similar to dual (or even quad shocks) back in the day, people did them for looks. Now since everyone sees one, they immediately think they need dual stabilizers to get their truck to drive correctly. If a dual stabilizer is needed, why not 3? 4? 5? 20?

A dual stabilizer does not stop death wobble. Ever had death wobble occur, and did it go away when you held the steering wheel tighter? Thats all a stabilizer does... If all your suspension components are tight, your alignment is correct (and by correct, I don't mean "in the green." Search, I've posted dozens of times on alignments) your tires are good, and your shocks are good, you one need ONE good (bilstien/fox...) stabilizer in the factory location. Always note too that every solid axle vehicle will have some inherent movement in the steering wheel when hitting something in the road. Your goal is not to lock the steering wheel in one position when you hit something. It's OK to have a little give in the steering system... And lastly, running anything more than 50 psi on a fox stabilizer isn't necessary. The charge is only there to keep the oil from cavitation. You can't physically move a steering component fast enough to cavitate the oil.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by mmtex63
did you notice any improvement like no bump steer ?
yes, it helped helpeda bit. I didn't really have any big issues before, replaced it to be proactive because of known problems.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 04:54 PM
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I don't know yet. Having Bilstein 5100's put on all 4 corners and a steering stabilizer. New Nitto 35's as well.

This is hopefully the last step after replacing drag link, track bar, and tie rod with Kryptonite parts.

I'll have a better idea after several hundred miles this weekend.
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ERE
I don't know yet. Having Bilstein 5100's put on all 4 corners and a steering stabilizer. New Nitto 35's as well.

This is hopefully the last step after replacing drag link, track bar, and tie rod with Kryptonite parts.

I'll have a better idea after several hundred miles this weekend.
Let me know if you don’t mind👍🏼
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerpyle
yes, it helped helpeda bit. I didn't really have any big issues before, replaced it to be proactive because of known problems.
that’s the only reason I’m thinking about it
 
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Old Apr 21, 2022 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomerpyle
yes, it helped helpeda bit. I didn't really have any big issues before, replaced it to be proactive because of known problems.
Originally Posted by mmtex63
that’s the only reason I’m thinking about it
In my case, It was one of the few things that my mechanic said was ok. His comment was something like " I can't believe a truck with 40K miles is so messed up".
 
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Old Apr 22, 2022 | 08:17 PM
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Back in 2017 I picked up a shiny new F250 from the dealer, drove it across the street to the tire shop and had some 35x1250s installed. I got death wobble on the way home. I normally run dual stabilizers but on this rig I went with a single bilstein factory replacement. It has impressed me with its control over the 35s. 5 years later its lookin a bit worn so I think a new one will find its way up there.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 02:54 PM
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Bilstein FTW!

I have a 2012 with all new front end components including a new OEM stabilizer when I bought it used. It still had DW. I replaced it with Bilstein and now on hard bumps I can feel it want to wobble, but the Bilstein stabilizes it right away. The OEM one is junk.
 
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Old Apr 25, 2022 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by acdii
Bilstein FTW!

I have a 2012 with all new front end components including a new OEM stabilizer when I bought it used. It still had DW. I replaced it with Bilstein and now on hard bumps I can feel it want to wobble, but the Bilstein stabilizes it right away. The OEM one is junk.
that's your indication that you still have a worn component in the front end. Find it And the wobble goes away.

Again, a stabilizer doesnt stop death wobble. It band aids it.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2022 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Norcalpr
that's your indication that you still have a worn component in the front end. Find it And the wobble goes away.

Again, a stabilizer doesnt stop death wobble. It band aids it.
Wait. I can't use a $50 item to fix a $300 bill? They fixed my stabilizer and got it better. Alignment said the drag link was shot. Go figure.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Norcalpr
that's your indication that you still have a worn component in the front end. Find it And the wobble goes away.

Again, a stabilizer doesnt stop death wobble. It band aids it.
ALL parts are brand new. The issue is with the Caster. I have not yet decided if I am keeping it or not, depends on when/if the one I ordered gets built, and what the values on my trucks are, and finance rates. If I keep it, I will find a local shop that knows how to properly align these and have the correct adjusters installed to get the caster where it needs to be, and not what Ford states them as. Until then the least bit of money I put in the truck the better.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 11:54 AM
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I have a steering stabilizer question...

I have a set of 37s waiting to go on truck.
I have read that upgraded stabilizers are needed for that size tire. Is that an absolute?
Thanks
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by kylant
I have a steering stabilizer question...

I have a set of 37s waiting to go on truck.
I have read that upgraded stabilizers are needed for that size tire. Is that an absolute?
Thanks
I don't know about absolute, I would see how it drives... but be sure to post pictures of the 37's and spare us with the magazine-like angle shots. Or at least post one square to the side of the truck so we can see how they fill the wheel wells.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by kylant
I have a steering stabilizer question...

I have a set of 37s waiting to go on truck.
I have read that upgraded stabilizers are needed for that size tire. Is that an absolute?
Thanks
If they’re reasonably balanced no. I say this as someone with 40k+ miles in 37”s with a stock stabilizer. I did start getting a little wobble toward the end of life on my Mickey Thompsons, but it was cured with centeamatic balancers. I still haven’t installed the PMF dual stabilizer setup I have on my shelf (though PM me if you’d want to buy it!). You should consider the centramatics ahead of a stabilizer in my opinion. bigger tires are hard to get balanced and they make the difference.
 
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Old Apr 29, 2022 | 08:40 PM
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Another vote for Bilstein. Put one on in the stock location and it’s made a pretty noticeable difference in controlling bump steer going over uneven pavement and potholes.
it’s just one part of your front suspension. Need to make sure ball joints, trac bar joint tie rod ends are good as well.
 
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