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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 07:29 PM
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Door Module window safety override

Hey, has anyone found issues with the pass/ driver windows opening back up while sensing obstruction? I have Ventshades installed and when it is cold the windows open backup when I close them due to the tightness and fit. It sometimes takes three of four tries to keep them closed. I don't have issues in the summer as the shades are more flexible.

I have looked with FORScan in the door modules but did not see any code to change the safety on/off. Anyone have info or where to look?
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 08:29 PM
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I got so PO'd when I tried to install the ventshades that I pulled them back off and sent them back.
Never could get them to fit where it wouldn't do that, and that was back in summer.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 08:31 PM
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My Ventshades are installed correctly. My issues are with the motor sensor causing the windows to open when they detect "resistance" in the path of travel. More of a re-programming question than product review. Nice rig ya have.
 

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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kbawi
My Ventshades are installed correctly. My issues are with the motor sensor causing the windows to open when they detect "resistance" in the path of travel. Nice Rig!
Yes, mine were installed correctly as well, but the clearances were just too tight for it to not bounce back when the window tried to close. I had the rep from ventshade on the phone with me, going step by step through the install, still no luck.
If I were to get some again, I'd just do the stick-on, but It's not worth it, don't need them anyway.
And, thanks!
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Yes, mine were installed correctly as well, but the clearances were just too tight for it to not bounce back when the window tried to close. I had the rep from ventshade on the phone with me, going step by step through the install, still no luck.
If I were to get some again, I'd just do the stick-on, but It's not worth it, don't need them anyway.
And, thanks!
OK, glad to hear you got your money back. But my question to the forum is if anyone knows what code number is within the door module so I can disable it using Forscan. There has to be a value to change as it is seeing a value to open the windows after sensing a obstruction (i.e, dogs foot).
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 08:51 PM
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When I installed my Wade in channel vent shades I had a problem with the passenger side window obstructing. My solution was to jamb something like heavy cardboard between the vent shade and the window glass along the track to reshape the window seal. Left it in there for several days. Of course the truck had been delivered less than a week so the seals were still pliable and the weather was warmish. (September in GA) This reshaped the window seals to allow the window to close with the vent shade in place.

Maybe when weather warms up you can try that. Or get a hairdryer after it, too.

And I know nothing about FORscan.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 08:57 PM
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Originally Posted by KU4OJ
When I installed my Wade in channel vent shades I had a problem with the passenger side window obstructing. My solution was to jamb something like heavy cardboard between the vent shade and the window glass along the track to reshape the window seal. Left it in there for several days. Of course the truck had been delivered less than a week so the seals were still pliable and the weather was warmish. (September in GA) This reshaped the window seals to allow the window to close with the vent shade in place.

Maybe when weather warms up you can try that. Or get a hairdryer after it, too.

And I know nothing about FORscan.
I SEEM TO BE GOING NOWHERE WITH MY QUESTION IN THIS FORUM REGARDING MODULE CODES AND SUCH.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kbawi
I SEEM TO BE GOING NOWHERE WITH MY QUESTION IN THIS FORUM REGARDING MODULE CODES AND SUCH.
That happens. Likely because such codes either do not exist or have not been figured out and added to the spreadsheet. Therefore, you were given a solution that worked for me. You are welcome.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 09:12 PM
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That happens. Likely because such codes either do not exist or have not been figured out and added to the spreadsheet. Therefore, you were given a solution that worked for me. You are welcome.
Thanks, I'll keep looking back at this post until someone finds the module/ code location. You mentioned that you know nothing of FORscan. I am trying to override the safety feature for "WINDOW OBSTRUCTION". I suggest you take a search on google and see what FORScan can do to modify your trucks hidden functions besides using cardboard to fix the problem. 73
 
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Old Mar 21, 2022 | 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kbawi
I SEEM TO BE GOING NOWHERE WITH MY QUESTION IN THIS FORUM REGARDING MODULE CODES AND SUCH.
Well, you can try your luck here FORScan Threads and Resources Index - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums (ford-trucks.com), or maybe the FORScan forum itself.
 
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Old May 9, 2022 | 10:26 PM
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Ive had the in-channel Ventshades installed for about 4 years now and never had an issue, until today when we went from the 60s to mid-90s finally. It worked fine this AM, but since this evening the pass. side keeps bouncing back down when it hits the top, every single time. I checked the channel, window, etc. It was the good side since it is much faster than the driver's side is, but now it has joined the pass. side power mirror and has gone teats up on me. Any idea how the stealership deals with this? Ill comb through the factory mamual in the AM and follow-up.
 
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Old May 9, 2022 | 11:16 PM
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Forscan isn't going to "fix"this because nothing is broken. You are adding aftermarket parts that alters the vehicle design. The safety mechanism resides in the window motor itself and is either a pressure switch or some sort of current detection.
 
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Old May 13, 2022 | 09:06 PM
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Forscan isn't going to "fix"this because nothing is broken. You are adding aftermarket parts that alters the vehicle design. The safety mechanism resides in the window motor itself and is either a pressure switch or some sort of current detection.
Correct. I have had little success in fixing hardware issues by tinkering with software, or software settings in this case.

In my poo-pooed and discounted suggestion above, I suggested altering the shape of the window seal to accommodate the presence of the in-channel visor material taking up space in the channel. I did this by wedging some cardboard between the glass and the vent shade on a few warm days to reshape the seal. (I didn't drive the truck that way, however) After a few days the seal was reshaped enough I had no further issues.

Give it a try. It's a cheap fix with minimal risk.
 
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Old May 13, 2022 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by JackalAR
Ive had the in-channel Ventshades installed for about 4 years now and never had an issue, until today when we went from the 60s to mid-90s finally. It worked fine this AM, but since this evening the pass. side keeps bouncing back down when it hits the top, every single time. I checked the channel, window, etc. It was the good side since it is much faster than the driver's side is, but now it has joined the pass. side power mirror and has gone teats up on me. Any idea how the stealership deals with this? Ill comb through the factory mamual in the AM and follow-up.
Your case is likely different from the OP, in that since your mirror has also joined the wonky list you probably don't have a problem with the shape of the seal thing. Sounds like there is some wiring problem or maybe water intrusion in the electrics in the door. Alas, FORscan won't help with that, either. Sounds like the door panel is going to have to come off and things in there need to be looked at.

If other weird electrical issues arise unrelated to this door, check your batteries. Low batteries drive these trucks crazy.
 
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Old May 13, 2022 | 09:45 PM
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I have the Ford branded in Chanel vent shades. Since day 1 I have had issues with the driver side window rolling up. I would always have to push the vent out to let the edge of the window get by and then quickly move my finger so it could finish rolling up. Finally, one day the corner just cracked, so I pulled it out. It's been working perfectly since. Then, one day a few weeks ago, the passenger side started doing the same thing. I pushed on it once, and it broke the same way the drivers side broke... so I pulled it off and it's working fine now. And yes, mine was installed correctly, on a very warm day, and the windows were left up for a week or more. I love the way the in channel visors look, and I do like that I can crack my window without letting rain in, but being in channel is not the right solution for this. But, now that the edges are cracked, they do work great... and the way they broke you wouldn't know it unless you were right up on it and looking for it.

The problem isn't a code to override this... if you did it would most likely break the visor, the motor rolling the window up, or maybe even damage the window., the first time it forced it's way up. The problem is these in channel visors (even as great as they look) just causes an issue with the windows rolling up. In these corners, the plastic needs to be thinner overall, and taper to a much finer point if they want them to work "better."
 
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