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Old Mar 1, 2022 | 11:49 AM
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F150 self driving hack

This guy came up with a way to make his F150 self driving without BlueCruise.


I wouldn't recommend it, but it's not my place to tell you how to use your truck.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 08:28 AM
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First of all, the technology that's designed to be self-driving isn't to a point where I'd trust it. Definitely wouldn't trust this 'hack". One simple example...sure it stopped at the red light because there was a car in front of him that stopped. If there was no car in front of him, he'd fly right through the red light.

Also, I don't turn on the lane keep assist because it gets fooled by a lot of things...large cracks in the road for instance. Mine would fight me every time I took a certain exit on my way to work. Having it shake the wheel if it thinks I'm leaving the lane is OK, having it try to steer...no thanks.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
First of all, the technology that's designed to be self-driving isn't to a point where I'd trust it. Definitely wouldn't trust this 'hack". One simple example...sure it stopped at the red light because there was a car in front of him that stopped. If there was no car in front of him, he'd fly right through the red light.

Also, I don't turn on the lane keep assist because it gets fooled by a lot of things...large cracks in the road for instance. Mine would fight me every time I took a certain exit on my way to work. Having it shake the wheel if it thinks I'm leaving the lane is OK, having it try to steer...no thanks.
What year is your Ford? Do you have Adaptive Cruise Control in your truck? I have lane keeping and ACC in mine. They both are outstanding. I trust both of them for the most part, but I keep vigilant whenever I use them. (which is anytime I drive over about 45 mph traffic signals or not).

He isn't telling you to put your feet on the dash and take a nap. He is only showing you how to fool the ACC into thinking you have the steering wheel in your hand to keep it from kicking out of CC because it's so annoying to have to move the steering wheel all of the time. No matter how vigilant and responsible you are with it it still gives you hands on the wheel warnings. So, yes, you have to watch what is going on around you at ALL times. I wouldn't let a TESLA have free run of the road either, I don't trust any car to never make a mistake, and neither should anybody else.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by caldak
What year is your Ford? Do you have Adaptive Cruise Control in your truck? I have lane keeping and ACC in mine. They both are outstanding. I trust both of them for the most part, but I keep vigilant whenever I use them. (which is anytime I drive over about 45 mph traffic signals or not).

He isn't telling you to put your feet on the dash and take a nap. He is only showing you how to fool the ACC into thinking you have the steering wheel in your hand to keep it from kicking out of CC because it's so annoying to have to move the steering wheel all of the time. No matter how vigilant and responsible you are with it it still gives you hands on the wheel warnings. So, yes, you have to watch what is going on around you at ALL times. I wouldn't let a TESLA have free run of the road either, I don't trust any car to never make a mistake, and neither should anybody else.
I've got a '21 Lariat. It has adaptive cruise. I'll admit my lane keep experience is more from my '18 fusion sport. Ultimately with that I set it to only shake the wheel and, even then, only used it on long drives on the interstate.

I tried the lane keep assist on the truck and it wanted to put me really close to the left line. I don't know if there's any adjustment, but it was running about 10" from the left edge of the lane. I turned it off after about 10 minutes of fighting it.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 11:04 AM
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Lane centering takes some getting used to.

Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
I tried the lane keep assist on the truck and it wanted to put me really close to the left line. I don't know if there's any adjustment, but it was running about 10" from the left edge of the lane. I turned it off after about 10 minutes of fighting it.
I agree with you about the lane centering for the first few seconds. Mine tends to go to about 1 foot from the right side of the lane, then moves back to the center a few seconds later. Then it pretty much stays there, unless I change lanes or something.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
First of all, the technology that's designed to be self-driving isn't to a point where I'd trust it. Definitely wouldn't trust this 'hack". One simple example...sure it stopped at the red light because there was a car in front of him that stopped. If there was no car in front of him, he'd fly right through the red light.

Also, I don't turn on the lane keep assist because it gets fooled by a lot of things...large cracks in the road for instance. Mine would fight me every time I took a certain exit on my way to work. Having it shake the wheel if it thinks I'm leaving the lane is OK, having it try to steer...no thanks.
Yup. Hell, I wouldn't even trust a Tesla to drive itself and that is supposed to be loaded with technology.
 
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Old Mar 2, 2022 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
I've got a '21 Lariat. It has adaptive cruise. I'll admit my lane keep experience is more from my '18 fusion sport. Ultimately with that I set it to only shake the wheel and, even then, only used it on long drives on the interstate.

I tried the lane keep assist on the truck and it wanted to put me really close to the left line. I don't know if there's any adjustment, but it was running about 10" from the left edge of the lane. I turned it off after about 10 minutes of fighting it.
I did see something related to adjusting the lane centering, but it seems like a real hassle:
HOW DOES LANE CENTERING WORK

Adaptive cruise control with lane centering uses radar and camera sensors to help keep your vehicle in the middle of the lane by applying continuous assistance steering torque input toward the lane center on highways.

Note: The adaptive cruise control gap setting operates normally.
If you drive off-center within the lane, the system sets and maintains that preferred lane position. The system provides continuous assistance steering torque input toward the preferred position.

Note: The system can only set preferred lane positions within the lane.
Note: If the system cancels, the preferred position erases. On the next activation, the system provides continuous assistance steering torque input toward the lane center.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2022 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by RossRR
I did see something related to adjusting the lane centering, but it seems like a real hassle:
HOW DOES LANE CENTERING WORK

Adaptive cruise control with lane centering uses radar and camera sensors to help keep your vehicle in the middle of the lane by applying continuous assistance steering torque input toward the lane center on highways.

Note: The adaptive cruise control gap setting operates normally.
If you drive off-center within the lane, the system sets and maintains that preferred lane position. The system provides continuous assistance steering torque input toward the preferred position.

Note: The system can only set preferred lane positions within the lane.
Note: If the system cancels, the preferred position erases. On the next activation, the system provides continuous assistance steering torque input toward the lane center.
Hmm....it didn't seem to work for me. I tried for 5-10 minutes and it kept pushing me over to the left side of the lane. I was on the interstate in the right lane, so it was pushing me closer to the adjacent vehicles. I shade to the right when in the right lane and shade to the left when in the left lane as a general rule.
 
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Old Mar 3, 2022 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
Hmm....it didn't seem to work for me. I tried for 5-10 minutes and it kept pushing me over to the left side of the lane. I was on the interstate in the right lane, so it was pushing me closer to the adjacent vehicles. I shade to the right when in the right lane and shade to the left when in the left lane as a general rule.
I copied and pasted out of the 2022 owners manual but I guess I wouldn't be surprised if the manual's description of function was written based on a design spec that the software folks were not able to fully implement.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2022 | 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Hwk-I-St8
First of all, the technology that's designed to be self-driving isn't to a point where I'd trust it. Definitely wouldn't trust this 'hack". One simple example...sure it stopped at the red light because there was a car in front of him that stopped. If there was no car in front of him, he'd fly right through the red light.

Also, I don't turn on the lane keep assist because it gets fooled by a lot of things...large cracks in the road for instance. Mine would fight me every time I took a certain exit on my way to work. Having it shake the wheel if it thinks I'm leaving the lane is OK, having it try to steer...no thanks.
All of this. :35 seconds of video to call "bull****". Wife likes the lane holding and I don't care that much for it. It's OK most of the time and I know it's part of the basic software that may eventually get some vehicles to autonomous driving. But it ain't anywhere near ready for prime time. Ours like to follow the yellow sometimes and I have to force it back into the lane because I ain't turning here. It also hugs the center more than I like, which is probably more me from towing. I tend to shy right with a trailer.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2022 | 03:10 PM
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Check for yourself.

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All of this. :35 seconds of video to call "bull****".
Check YouTube. This guy isn't the only video showing almost the exact same method to defeat the constant "hands on wheel' warnings.

 
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