Seized '62 292 Block
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Seized '62 292 Block
Hi all,
Let me start off by saying I have little to no experience working on engines or mechanical work so I'm looking for some guidance. I posted this in the Unibody subform but it doesn't get much traffic.
I've recently pulled an old '62 F100 for under a collapsed barn. It was parked running way back in 1991 and now the engine is seized. I had a hard time getting a few of the spark plugs off and a couple had a bit of rust on them. I looked down the cylinders with a snake camera and most of them look pretty good. Two had some spot surface rust. I poured Marvel Mystery Oil down them and it'll be about a month until I can get to work on the truck again. If anyone can give me their option on what they see and possible next steps for a noob, I would be most grateful. I've posted two videos of my adventures.
Pulling the truck out from under a barn -
Getting a look at spark plugs and in the cylinders
Let me start off by saying I have little to no experience working on engines or mechanical work so I'm looking for some guidance. I posted this in the Unibody subform but it doesn't get much traffic.
I've recently pulled an old '62 F100 for under a collapsed barn. It was parked running way back in 1991 and now the engine is seized. I had a hard time getting a few of the spark plugs off and a couple had a bit of rust on them. I looked down the cylinders with a snake camera and most of them look pretty good. Two had some spot surface rust. I poured Marvel Mystery Oil down them and it'll be about a month until I can get to work on the truck again. If anyone can give me their option on what they see and possible next steps for a noob, I would be most grateful. I've posted two videos of my adventures.
Pulling the truck out from under a barn -
Getting a look at spark plugs and in the cylinders
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Greetings from Mississippi!
Does the truck have brakes? Is the truck std shift?
If it is std shift & has brakes find you an assistant & tow it around some while letting up on the clutch in high gear. Be sure ALL the spark plugs have been removed. May need some junk iron in the bed to aid traction.
Normally you would pull the the rocker covers to determine which intake & exhaust vales are open to atmosphere & concentrate your efforts on those cyls.
It's too late now but non silicone brake fluid woulda been a better choice than Marvel.
Good Luck! PS- Did you eat Black Eyed Peas New Years Day?
Does the truck have brakes? Is the truck std shift?
If it is std shift & has brakes find you an assistant & tow it around some while letting up on the clutch in high gear. Be sure ALL the spark plugs have been removed. May need some junk iron in the bed to aid traction.
Normally you would pull the the rocker covers to determine which intake & exhaust vales are open to atmosphere & concentrate your efforts on those cyls.
It's too late now but non silicone brake fluid woulda been a better choice than Marvel.
Good Luck! PS- Did you eat Black Eyed Peas New Years Day?
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Hi andyh1956, thanks for the suggestions.
There are no working brakes and clutch right now. I would be tackling those if/after I got the engine running. I tried using a breaker bar on the crankshaft before inspecting the cylinders. I'm hoping a month of soaking in MMO will help. Let me know if you spotted anything major in the second video that might be concerning or a good sign.
Thanks!
P.S. Unfortunately, I did not eat Black Eyed Peas New Years Day. =(
There are no working brakes and clutch right now. I would be tackling those if/after I got the engine running. I tried using a breaker bar on the crankshaft before inspecting the cylinders. I'm hoping a month of soaking in MMO will help. Let me know if you spotted anything major in the second video that might be concerning or a good sign.
Thanks!
P.S. Unfortunately, I did not eat Black Eyed Peas New Years Day. =(
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Y blocks that have sit for a long time sometimes have stuck valves. I would suggest removing the rocker arms before trying to turn the engine over, with the pugs removed. After removing the rockers see that all the valves are completely closed. If you try turning the engine over with a stuck closed valve you will only bend the push rod or if the valve is stuck open the push rod will fall out.. Good Luck
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While I know that people get seized engines running, the best course of action is a complete teardown to clean and inspect everything, at the very least, and then reassemble.
A '62 should have the C2AE block, which is one of the best, for it's strength but it has thinner cylinder walls than earlier blocks. Many of the most powerful Y-Blocks built have used that block. The two most powerful naturally aspirated engines did use it, with one of those exceeding 700hp. For most people this won't matter one bit but it's a reason to try to keep it in good condition. To be clear, this does not make it more valuable but it is a significant benefit in some cases.
A '62 should have the C2AE block, which is one of the best, for it's strength but it has thinner cylinder walls than earlier blocks. Many of the most powerful Y-Blocks built have used that block. The two most powerful naturally aspirated engines did use it, with one of those exceeding 700hp. For most people this won't matter one bit but it's a reason to try to keep it in good condition. To be clear, this does not make it more valuable but it is a significant benefit in some cases.
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Thanks for the spark plug help! I just got a time capsule '63, parked for over 40 years in a barn. It was a farm service truck and in amazing condition that I'm hoping to preserve exactly as it is. First try I got 2 plugs out so I soaked the rest in PB Blaster. Their new can has the straw attached and it foams as it comes out, makes it super easy to get it right where you want it and the foam holds in place better. Went back after a few days and now I'm up to 6 out with no issue, the other 2 will turn slightly so I gave them another dose yesterday. I was afraid I was going to have to pull the engine to deal with 'em but if you can get one out that wouldn't budge with a breaker bar, I now have great hope that I'll get the other two out, trying again today. So far, they've all looked very good and I have seen only a couple of tiny rust stars in one of the bores. I'll start a project thread on this one soon, just wanted to stop in and say thanks for the vid and sharing what's worked for you.
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Thanks for the info! I'll do my best to get her running with as much care that's in my skillset.
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Hey Salty! I'm glad a super noob like myself was able to help someone out. Kind of satisfying that I came looking for help but somehow was able to help someone out!
Keep us posted on your progress.
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I'm fortunate enough to have a lot of good Ford and mechanic friends...for a Chevy guy. First truck I ever remember riding in and the one I learned to drive in was a '63 or '64 3-on-the-tree like this one, that's why it had such appeal. It's not a patina truck, just shows normal wear and tear for 13 years followed by 40+ years out of the weather. I'm seeing signs that this guy planned to put this one up for a while - gas tank dry, brand new oil, there's still dabs of grease on the zerks from when it was lubed just before being parked. Makes me feel all that much more fortunate to have found it.
There are a lot of history experts here that I'll be leaning on to keep this thing as period correct as I can, I don't want to change anything that's not absolutely necessary.
There are a lot of history experts here that I'll be leaning on to keep this thing as period correct as I can, I don't want to change anything that's not absolutely necessary.
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Last week I watched a youtube video of the guy who got a siezed 292 running. It had similar issues as yours.
He just had the engine on a stand, but he did get it freed up and running.
I'll see if I can find it again.
He just had the engine on a stand, but he did get it freed up and running.
I'll see if I can find it again.
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Last week I watched a youtube video of the guy who got a siezed 292 running. It had similar issues as yours.
He just had the engine on a stand, but he did get it freed up and running.
I'll see if I can find it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlq4aMbrlrE&t=2147s
He just had the engine on a stand, but he did get it freed up and running.
I'll see if I can find it again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlq4aMbrlrE&t=2147s
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Hey mote!
Thanks for the link! Yea, I follow Mortske. I found him and couple of other channels when looking up working on older engines or Will It Run videos. I learned a few of the basics from his channel. Remember, I'm a super noob. Heh.
Thanks for the link! Yea, I follow Mortske. I found him and couple of other channels when looking up working on older engines or Will It Run videos. I learned a few of the basics from his channel. Remember, I'm a super noob. Heh.