R1234yf Refrigerant
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If I get the gear to do it myself, I’d convert back to r134 if it comes to that in any newer vehicle I by. It’s compatible and just needs the right fittings in place.
Funny thing about this stuff...bless technology and all, to a certain point, but why crank out a flammable refrigerant in the name of global warming potential and ozone depletion potential? Does a vehicle burning to the ground and emitting various forms of carbon into the air not add to GWP?
Hmmm...it sounds like the folks that want us to eat bug meal and “own nothing and be proud of it” are at it again. Make expensive refrigerant so you’ll be less inclined to recharge and drive around a sweaty mess all day long. Yuck.
Funny thing about this stuff...bless technology and all, to a certain point, but why crank out a flammable refrigerant in the name of global warming potential and ozone depletion potential? Does a vehicle burning to the ground and emitting various forms of carbon into the air not add to GWP?
Hmmm...it sounds like the folks that want us to eat bug meal and “own nothing and be proud of it” are at it again. Make expensive refrigerant so you’ll be less inclined to recharge and drive around a sweaty mess all day long. Yuck.
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If I get the gear to do it myself, I’d convert back to r134 if it comes to that in any newer vehicle I by. It’s compatible and just needs the right fittings in place.
Funny thing about this stuff...bless technology and all, to a certain point, but why crank out a flammable refrigerant in the name of global warming potential and ozone depletion potential? Does a vehicle burning to the ground and emitting various forms of carbon into the air not add to GWP?
Hmmm...it sounds like the folks that want us to eat bug meal and “own nothing and be proud of it” are at it again. Make expensive refrigerant so you’ll be less inclined to recharge and drive around a sweaty mess all day long. Yuck.
Funny thing about this stuff...bless technology and all, to a certain point, but why crank out a flammable refrigerant in the name of global warming potential and ozone depletion potential? Does a vehicle burning to the ground and emitting various forms of carbon into the air not add to GWP?
Hmmm...it sounds like the folks that want us to eat bug meal and “own nothing and be proud of it” are at it again. Make expensive refrigerant so you’ll be less inclined to recharge and drive around a sweaty mess all day long. Yuck.
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Hotshot
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From: Near Salt Lake City
They are using it now
Most manufacturers
Some since 2017
They claim you cannot convert back to 134a due to the oil being not compatible
However there are people out there converting them successfully I believe
That's the same thing they said last time when 134 came in in 92 (94 mandate)
They also claim you can let the new stuff out to vent to atmosphere
Watch for that to change
Most manufacturers
Some since 2017
They claim you cannot convert back to 134a due to the oil being not compatible
However there are people out there converting them successfully I believe
That's the same thing they said last time when 134 came in in 92 (94 mandate)
They also claim you can let the new stuff out to vent to atmosphere
Watch for that to change
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Thankfully I won't have to worry about the new equipment. Fleet pays for all my tools. Don't miss the tool truck one damn bit. 
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F150 has used R1234yf since 2017
Raptor since 2021
F250 and bigger still do not use it
Expedition has used R1234yf since 2018
Raptor since 2021
F250 and bigger still do not use it
Expedition has used R1234yf since 2018
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