You know Sinjin, I have heard that brings out the aroma of clover . . if the original animal had eaten any.

Wow. Like a pot full of meadow you can serve individually, or by the dozen!!

 

1. below average (for my part of the country – typical on all replies)

2. normal

3. below average

4. normal

5. below average

6. below average

7. below average

8. normal

9. normal.

10. normal

11. normal

12. below average

By all indications – despite the above 50% spread – I deem you a normal citizen and can run for and hold any office, dance on the courthouse square, sleep on park benches, drive loaded Super Duty Trucks, date movie stars, hang out with drug addicts, burn the flag, dodge the draft, advise the president, preach in synagogues, be a deejay, strip for money, sing for your supper, fly a kite, tie the knot, skip a rope……..

 

No problem re typos or editing omissions, I do more than my share of them. As I continue with the mods to my truck, it is good to know that you don't care what I do - that will really affect my decisions. On second thought, I even agree with you on number 8, assuming the original meaning of the word ("joyous","bright").
On this forum we take on just about any subject with gusto, but most refrain from remarks re others trucks - sacred ground.
If I relax any more, I'll fall asleep.
Dono

 

The Bible says that homosexuality is an abomination to God, so I doubt that He created anyone that way. But that doesn't mean we get to persecute them. Love the sinner, hate the sin. That is tough but should be an objective of anyone in a civilized society whether Christian or not.
As for pro choice I guess I am in favor of it, although I wonder why anyone would choose to kill a baby. Maybe we should be able to take them out until they are about 18.lol

 

Well willowbilly, I've seen some adolescents that were a strong argument for retroactive abortion.

 

Hey everyone. Why dont you ask a gay person and see what they say about being gay? In fact, I may know a gay person who posts on the board. I know, you'd never suspect it because he lives in the country, drives a couple big Ford trucks, and doesn't like any show with gay people in them because they are portrayed like a stereotype. This person really hates Queer Eye for the Straight guy because not all gay guys are into how they dress, how their house looks, and all that makeup they make guys use. Oh yeah, and I also know a gay guy who is conservative, and believes in less government intervention. This gay guy also doesn't give a **** what other rednecks say about him because its not their ****ing life. Oh yeah, did I mention that this gay guy is me. The gay guy who's been partnered with a like gay guy for awhile now with the same country type of views. Why don't you guys ask us why we are gay, and we will tell you that it is not a choice. I dont want to ****ing be this way. I hate it. I hate that people think I am a deviant and that just because I am a teacher I want to molest kids. It's not like I am a ****ing catholic priest. That's stupid. I hate that just because I am gay I am stereotyped as someone who goes to the opera and to gay bars and park bathrooms to scope out guys. I have never been to the opera, to a gay bar, or to a park bathroom that is a pickup. Oh yeah, and this gay guy does not keep his house clean all the time and he does not dress to match all the time. In fact, I am a jeans and boots and cowboy hat wearin ******, except when I ride my Harley and then I wear leather for protection. Here's another surprise to everyone who isnt gay. Most gay guys do not like being gay because of all the stereotypes. And most gay guys I know hate them girly twink boys for making everybody think that all gay people are that way. Yes, gay is not in. It never will be accepted. Thats fine. But just remember that I did not choose it. My sexual drive is not something I choose. Its like taste, smell, sight, thirst, hunger. It is just something that is. I have never told anyone on the board that I am gay. It's nobody's businessand it has nothing to do with my interest in Ford trucks. But I am not going to run from it either because it's a small part of who I am. Whenever I was slapped in the face with the realization that I was gay. I decided that I was going to be the "anti gay guy" and not make being gay who I am, because it is not who I am. It is a small part of who I am. Just like someone who is straight. Its not who they are. Its a part of them.

So there, you got it out of me. If you have any questions about it just ask. I will answer most questions about it.

 

Chief
Way to tell it!

 

...10 out of 12 ain`t bad. Does that make me rich too??? I hope so, `cause I need the money.....


Bill in Miami.

 

search political test on the computer.Their are some test that you can take and it shows what you are .Its funny the one i did most people believe the same.out of over 2 million people only 7% were rep.Most are in the middle and more to the left.

 

Thanks for the post chief. I am not an advocate of homosexuality by any means but I agree with most of what you say. I don't see it as a reason for not having all the same doors open to you as any one else. I for one don't think any teacher . gay or straight, has any business discussing their sexual preferences with my kids. And I don't like the steroe types either but look at the mentality of the sitcoms and I think they are insulting to humans in general. I did like Billy Crystals gay character in Soap, but most of them should get trounced at a gay bar for the way they portray real people. But as political correcness creeps through society we have to keep finding different groups of people to slam. and it will be the ones that are least likely to defend them selves. Just look at popular movies over the past 50 years. We had the axis enemys for bad guys and the American Indians but then that grew unpopular so it was bikers that were the moronic bad guys to be humiliated. Unless we come up with some new stereotypes to make fun of will may run through them all before long.

And just for grins ask your homophobic men friends who they would rather hang with and I think that you will find most men homosocial ( that's my term thank you). Throw that at them and see what kind of a sputtering reaction you get from bubba as he chokes on his chew.

 

Chiefman,

respectfully, I would be interested in your answer if you have one to my earlier question regarding "admitting genetic truth" versus "changing one's mind".

I would like to hear your opinion. I give you my word I will treat it respectfully, whether I agree with it or not.

 

no accually its a republic there is a difference lol

<<Ct, here I go again with the smart@#$>>

 

My opinion on "admitting my genetic truth" and "changing my mind".

Being gay is like hunger, not like the type of food you like. There is a difference. I think that realizing you are gay and "admitting your genetic truth" are two different things. Being gay is not genetic. My mom and dad are both straight.

I always knew that I was different than my friends and family. I hung around a group of guys were are very country and very homophobic. They talk pretty harshly against gay people, along with african americans and jewish people. Anyway, I knew in the back of my mind that I was gay, even though I never developed crushes on any of the guys I was friends with. As we got out of high school the yelling in the back of my mind that I was gay became too loud I couldn't hear anything else. I kept denying that I was. I kept looking in the mirror and telling myself, "I am not gay. . . .I am not a ******." "Please God no. . . Don't make me a ******." Well, that didn't work. I was gay. On Christmas Day in 2000, I finally admitted the truth that I was a gay man. The problem was that I didn't fit any of the stereotypes and thats all I knew. So I used the internet to get online and meet other country gay guys that shared alot of the same thoughts, feelings, interests, and lifestyles that I wanted to live. I learned that being gay is not who you are and no one is bound to any one stereotype because being who you are is the most important thing. I decided to be the "anti-gay man" and live life very much like a straight person would. I have managed to do that AND find another gay man who feels the same way I do about it. He and I are both teachers, me Science and him Math. We teach in the same district but not the same schools. The kids know about us and they aren't bothered by it because I dont make a big production about it. When you are a teacher you are a role model to kids and its very important for both my partner and myself to continue to be good role models despite our orientation. We are changing the stereotype of gay men to these kids. It's something we are both really proud of.

As for changing my mind. Since I have met my partner, I wouldn't change my mind about being gay. Do I want to be gay? **** no! Would I change my sexual orientation? **** no! I am very happy with my partner and we live a great life together. We have a good relationship and there is no bitching, no moaning, no PMS, we are best friends. I dont have to put up with any woman type games that drive men nuts. What would I change? I would change people perception of what being homosexual is all about and I would also change those people who are **** who make their sexual orientation who they are and flaunt it like its the most important thing in the whole wide world or those who make a political statement with it. People who do that are definitely short changing themselves because everybody is more than who they fall in love with. I hate that they make straight people cringe and expand the stereotype that all gay men are like them. Inappropriate content removed by admin. <!-- I also hate those stupid shows that portray gay men as cross dressers and girls with *****. --> I"ve never worn women's clothing and I don't act like a girl. There is nothing feminine about me. But, its not up to me since I don't run the world. That's God's job. Oh, by the way, that is another thing I hate. I hate that people think that I cannot believe in God just because I am gay. I have a stronger belief in God since I've accepted my sexual orientation. We all have the right to believe in God. Anyway, I really do think I was made this way because I had those feelings way back into my childhood. If I was not made that way, why were they there? It's not the devil because he does not influence me one bit.

So, in closing, I will not change my mind back to being straight. I did not change my mind to become gay. I just accepted the fact that I was and that it was a small part of me. So really, realizing your sexuality is a two step process. Step 1: Admitting to yourself your sexual truth and Step 2: Changing your mind about what that means to you.

Thanks for letting me express my opinion about this. Are there any other questions?

 

I have one. Where did you learn to write? You present excellent arguments in a logical fashion.

More power to you, dude

 

Chiefman,

let me start by saying many thanks for your reply.

It's going to take me a while to digest what you have said as a whole, but I did notice a couple of things I find interesting already.

. . in no particular order . . .

A) You could have almost been describing any number of events in my life that have occurred *conceptually*. I am not and never have been gay.

B) "The problem was that I didn't fit any of the stereotypes and thats all I knew."

Man, this describes nearly every person I have ever known. Yea, there have been exceptions but not very danged many.

Again . . thanks.
P.S. I may like to call you back to the stand at a later date.

Remember; you are still under oath