sea foam input
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sea foam input
Well fte guys i would like to know if any of you folk's have used
any of the sea foam products? & if so what type of results i could
expect or not expect out of this product. In the past i have used the auto rx treatment but have seen some wild claims about this
3 in 1 out of the same can it is reasonably priced but do not want
to tear up anything because i just did not ask. The site info says that it has been around for a long time, if you guys have any info on how the pushrods & the mod motors like it i would greatly
appreciate the info [ any horror stories or any testamonials to the
way it worked & will it make the engine smoke as bad as it says?]
thanks guys turbo ted
any of the sea foam products? & if so what type of results i could
expect or not expect out of this product. In the past i have used the auto rx treatment but have seen some wild claims about this
3 in 1 out of the same can it is reasonably priced but do not want
to tear up anything because i just did not ask. The site info says that it has been around for a long time, if you guys have any info on how the pushrods & the mod motors like it i would greatly
appreciate the info [ any horror stories or any testamonials to the
way it worked & will it make the engine smoke as bad as it says?]
thanks guys turbo ted
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It works. I used it on my 360 to remove carbon, which I believe it did. When you pour the stuff down the carb and it starts to smoke white, then gray, then back to clear, I think it's working. Upon further treatment, it only made the white smoke. This tells me that the carbon was gone.
You might want to take it easy on the engine for about 50 miles after treatment, as carbon might still work its way loose.
You might want to take it easy on the engine for about 50 miles after treatment, as carbon might still work its way loose.
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rusty70f100 how often do you do this to your 360 & over how
many treatments have you witnessed the best results now on the web one article that i read said for you to drive the vehicle in
a spirited maner after you have done the 3 step process to your
vechile. But this did come out of a shop's testamoniy so ill try it
from experience not his thank you for your input. Went by the
bottle's directions on a little mazda p/u & WOW i have never seen
this type of results from a can. I cannot tell you how well it worked on this truck it was my cousins truck he dropped his jaw
at the level of preformance it preformed at before & after if you
can think of anything else that you or anyone else can apply to
this process just write back.
thank you sir turbo ted
many treatments have you witnessed the best results now on the web one article that i read said for you to drive the vehicle in
a spirited maner after you have done the 3 step process to your
vechile. But this did come out of a shop's testamoniy so ill try it
from experience not his thank you for your input. Went by the
bottle's directions on a little mazda p/u & WOW i have never seen
this type of results from a can. I cannot tell you how well it worked on this truck it was my cousins truck he dropped his jaw
at the level of preformance it preformed at before & after if you
can think of anything else that you or anyone else can apply to
this process just write back.
thank you sir turbo ted
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Every third oil change I buy a can and pour 5 oz. in a glass container.I then pull the brake vaccum line,start the engine,stick the line into the glass container to let the motor suck in the SeaFoam.I then shut the motor off quickly and let it set for 15-20 minutes.After that time I start it up,blowing all the black nasty stuff out the tail pipe,go up the interstate about 5 miles to blow out the rest,and come home and change the oil.I pour the rest of the SeaFoam into the gas tank and go about my way.This process will return great results!
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BlueOvalFitter nice input so you change your oil & filter after you
do the upper intake cleaning. Have you ever kept driving & not changed the oil & filter after you did the upper treatment? And if so did you see any differance? I poured a can in the tank of my lincoln not the 3 step system & WOW. On one of the sites that i was reading on this product i read one guy write in that his truck
was left idling & he had a large tank so he put in two bottles to
his full tank & that by the time that he came back to the truck
from throwing away the empty cans 15 feet it was already running smother & quieter than ever before. I wounder if it would be ok to add a wole bottle to my 98 expedition 5.4 crankcase you know since they have a 6 quart capacity what do you think?
well thank you sir turbo ted
do the upper intake cleaning. Have you ever kept driving & not changed the oil & filter after you did the upper treatment? And if so did you see any differance? I poured a can in the tank of my lincoln not the 3 step system & WOW. On one of the sites that i was reading on this product i read one guy write in that his truck
was left idling & he had a large tank so he put in two bottles to
his full tank & that by the time that he came back to the truck
from throwing away the empty cans 15 feet it was already running smother & quieter than ever before. I wounder if it would be ok to add a wole bottle to my 98 expedition 5.4 crankcase you know since they have a 6 quart capacity what do you think?
well thank you sir turbo ted
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Yes,always change the oil after de-carbonizing the upper motor. I would not want all that excess junk from the upper motor in my oil any longer then is has to be.
My self personally,I would not add the SeaFoam to my oil.If you want to clean your crankcase go with Auto RX.Check out this website; www.bobistheoilguy.com
My self personally,I would not add the SeaFoam to my oil.If you want to clean your crankcase go with Auto RX.Check out this website; www.bobistheoilguy.com
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About every other oil change I add a whole can of SeaFoam to the crankcase the morning of, or 50 to 100 miles before an oil change. I started doing that in the '92 5.8L F250 and really liked the results, Just seemed to run smoother and quieter. Didn't seem to make any difference in the new 5.4, but then it really hadn't had time to build up much gunk. I want to keep it that way. I have not gotten around to doing an induction cleaning on the old truck. I didn't have it around here for a long time and really should get to it.
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it works really good at getting all the junk out. i just used and was pleased also with the results.
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I would NEVER add anything to the motor oil. The oil manufacturers spend a lot of time and money getting their additive packages right. Adding some miracle in a can, can sometimes upset that package and actually make things worse in the long run. Especially if it was a cleaner which is a solvent...your thinning out your oil, um, not exactly the smart thing to do.
While I've used top end cleaner before I cant believe the frequency some of you guys are using it. Why so often? I can see it once when you buy a used vehicle and do not know the full maintenance history but after that first one, in a properly running and maintained engine there shouldn't be anywhere near the carbon build up especially that often.
Gasoline is blended with detergents now a days, idealy a pour in fuel system cleaner isn't ever needed either. Yes I use them once or twice a year "just to make sure" the injectors/carb is staying clean. HTH and saves some money.
While I've used top end cleaner before I cant believe the frequency some of you guys are using it. Why so often? I can see it once when you buy a used vehicle and do not know the full maintenance history but after that first one, in a properly running and maintained engine there shouldn't be anywhere near the carbon build up especially that often.
Gasoline is blended with detergents now a days, idealy a pour in fuel system cleaner isn't ever needed either. Yes I use them once or twice a year "just to make sure" the injectors/carb is staying clean. HTH and saves some money.
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If you have a lot of gunk in the motor, regular oil won't get it out. Sea Foam is good stuff. I won't run it in the oil for long, most of the time if I decide to, it's for a few miles right before an oil change. Most of the time I'm using it to clean the insides of the intake manifold. I use STP fuel injector cleaner about every oil change to keep the injectors clean. I can tell a difference after I run that stuff. I probably do the seafoam thing for the manifold about every other oil change or so. It always seems to make it huff out a lot of smoke, so I know there's something there for it to clean.
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I'm not saying that it works or doesn't work, but there is nothing magical about SeaFoam. I looked up the ingredients:
25%-35% Naphtha (a solvent)
10%-20 Isopropal alcohol (another solvent and a water absorber)
40%-60% Pale oil (a thin, light mineral oil).
These are basically the same ingredients that make up all fuel and oil additives. Marval Mystery Oil is very similar. I find it hard to believe that any one of these products works substantially better than any other.
BTW, you should never put any alcohol containing fuel additive in a PSD.
25%-35% Naphtha (a solvent)
10%-20 Isopropal alcohol (another solvent and a water absorber)
40%-60% Pale oil (a thin, light mineral oil).
These are basically the same ingredients that make up all fuel and oil additives. Marval Mystery Oil is very similar. I find it hard to believe that any one of these products works substantially better than any other.
BTW, you should never put any alcohol containing fuel additive in a PSD.
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jschira I also looked up the msds info on this product & the only
reason that I went ahead with the cleaning is due to the fact
that there are no registered complaints with the FTC like the ones on z max, dura lube,or prolong. I have been in the autoparts business for over 15 years now & i do not belive in the
fix in a can that most people put faith in; now there is such a thing as help in a can with some of these products! I used this product in both of my cars & there was a noticeable improvement in overall preformance of both vehicles from mpgs to idle smoothness & the power that was allready there. I have also learned that sometimes the most simple route is the most effective in the long run & this product is one of the most basic around. I have also used the marvel mystery oil & i never had it
preform at this level. Just from experience you may want to try give it a try.
turbo ted
reason that I went ahead with the cleaning is due to the fact
that there are no registered complaints with the FTC like the ones on z max, dura lube,or prolong. I have been in the autoparts business for over 15 years now & i do not belive in the
fix in a can that most people put faith in; now there is such a thing as help in a can with some of these products! I used this product in both of my cars & there was a noticeable improvement in overall preformance of both vehicles from mpgs to idle smoothness & the power that was allready there. I have also learned that sometimes the most simple route is the most effective in the long run & this product is one of the most basic around. I have also used the marvel mystery oil & i never had it
preform at this level. Just from experience you may want to try give it a try.
turbo ted
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No problem. But most of these products are a light mineral oil in a solvent base. The solvent is usually naphtha.
Diesel fuel treatments usually stay away from alcohol but are mostly kerosene cut with naphtha.
I just don't think that there is that much difference between them.
Diesel fuel treatments usually stay away from alcohol but are mostly kerosene cut with naphtha.
I just don't think that there is that much difference between them.
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jschira I agree with you on the other products that are snake oils
in fancy packaging & to a certian point this is why i have never
given any creditability to most of them. But on the other hand
with this product i have came up with a forumla to work this product to its fullest potiental without damageing the cats or the
o2 sensors. Now the data that i have measured is one of the most simple ways to guage the preformance of a product of this nature i have used a vacuum guage to measure vacuum before
& after, after all the simplest way to explain an engine is to say it
is an air pump; the more efficient the pump, the more vacuum
the engine produces. In this case the test subject is my 32 valve intech V-8 which is a heavy breather to begin with & to my surprise it did produce a significant amount of vacuum after the
whole treatment process.
turbo ted
in fancy packaging & to a certian point this is why i have never
given any creditability to most of them. But on the other hand
with this product i have came up with a forumla to work this product to its fullest potiental without damageing the cats or the
o2 sensors. Now the data that i have measured is one of the most simple ways to guage the preformance of a product of this nature i have used a vacuum guage to measure vacuum before
& after, after all the simplest way to explain an engine is to say it
is an air pump; the more efficient the pump, the more vacuum
the engine produces. In this case the test subject is my 32 valve intech V-8 which is a heavy breather to begin with & to my surprise it did produce a significant amount of vacuum after the
whole treatment process.
turbo ted
