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A general pickup truck question:
It makes sense that flattening the tailgate decreases wind drag. Does anyone have any hard data from experiments they have done on their trucks? Anybody have any 1/4 mile times with the gate up and down for comparison?
Wasn't trying to be a smart a$$. I am a sheriff's deputy and I know about that crap (tailgate law). The net is made for those who wish to remove their tailgates and still have the containment of one. They allow the wind to pass through. I tried one and did not notice any significant (or insignificant)increase in fuel consumption. Looked good though.
I don't know about the mpg thing. But I do know the truck sure don't get thrown around by high winds or 18-wheelers near as bad with the gate down as it dose with it up.
A few years ago when everyone was trying to save gas, one of the truck mags (Pick Van & 4 Wheeldrive or Motor Trend, don't remember who actually did it). Tested this theory. The results - it didn't make a dimes worth of differance in gas mileage. I do know that your rear window will get dirtier faster with it down. They also did high speed testing. The idea was that if it took energy away by having the gate up, it should slow the truck down. It didn't.
A few years ago when everyone was trying to save gas, one of the truck mags (Pick Van & 4 Wheeldrive or Motor Trend, don't remember who actually did it). Tested this theory. The results - it didn't make a dimes worth of differance in gas mileage. I do know that your rear window will get dirtier faster with it down. They also did high speed testing. The idea was that if it took energy away by having the gate up, it should slow the truck down. It didn't.
98 F250LD 4X4
I'll have to find it on a Mustang site I frequent but at HIGHER speeds (like drag racing Lightnings @ 100 MPH +) opening the tailgate INCREASES DRAG. Something to do with the boundry layer of air in the bed is cleaner(less turbulence)than the air having to travel farther to the floor of the bed and then out the back. Strange but true!!!
I first I thought that had to be wrong but it almost makes sense. Please do find the reference.
If it really made a differece in gas mileage, the EPA would force the manufacturers to do something about a cover that improved gas mileage so it probably is true about the boundary layer.
Still it seems wierd, but its not the first time that testing produced facts to punch holes in the obvious,; that's why you test.
You mean besides the fact that it is illegal to drop the tailgate in most states as the truck is in motion? That is why a tailgate net is made now.
It's either not illegal in Minnesota or the cops don't care. I got pulled over in my ranger with the tailgate down and he didn't say antything about it. I forgot why I was pulled over in the first place. Now I just take it off and throw it in the back in front of the wheel wells so if I need it, its there. I use it only when I am hualing something in the back. Those tailgate nets are stupid. My friend had one on his s-10 and something he was hauling rolled into it and ripped it in half. I am surprised the bed didn't rip off first!
People who say it can't be done should not interrupt the person doing it.
Dropping the tailgate to try and get better gas mileage is a MYTH plain and simple .
The aero dynamics of the pick-up have been gone over & over again by manufacturers to provide the best performance by design and within the law.
The drag created by the vehicle itself with or without the
tailgate up doesn't change.
So why take a chance on a fine for no reason.
I been invovled in discussions about this subject many times.
The outcome is always the same.
It's NO Better with the tailgate down.
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Heres a simple experiment; Put your gate up and throw a coke can in the back. Now take off down the highway. The wind will hit the gate and push the can to the cab. It will do any other light weight stuff you put back there the same way. Most times you see stuff floating in the back of a truck, its up by the cab. I drive up to 1000 miles a week in my '95 F150 XLT w/302. I can say from 134,000 miles experience that it does make a difference! Other trucks may differ, but it works for my truck. Mike
PS Dang! The pic aint workin!
I can say from 134,000 miles experience that it does make a difference!
Yeah...your tailgate hinges are worn out from the tailgate bouncing up & down.
How dare you come in to this topic and start cr^p!!! If you don't want to run with your tail gate down, who are you to........ JUST KIDDING!!! Actually Bill, it does look like you may have a sense of humor after all......long as it doesn't involve M motors LOL!!!
Bob, I looked and can't find it!!! I'll start looking through my magazines next. MM&FF????
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