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Oct 4, 2021 | 04:27 PM

Rzr-runner1987

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The door sticker question

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I’m Trying to figure out the door sticker gvw. What’s the difference between and f250 9900 gvw and a f350 10,000 gvw? Also what makes a f350 with a 11,400 gvw any different than a 10,000 gvw???? Reason I ask, I have a 2022 f250 cclb on order and I have a 1995 lance squire truck camper coming in at 2800lbs. If all the superduties come with a load range e tire what reall are the differences? And should I go with a “derated” 350? Thank you

Oct 4, 2021 | 04:39 PM

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The difference between a 11,400 and a 10,000 F350 is the sticker. It is a paper derate for those jurisdictions that charge a higher registration for trucks over 10,000.

A 10,000 F350 has more load capability than a F250 9900 or 10,000.

For a slide in camper I would go with the derated f350 if the GVWR is an issue in your state.

Oct 4, 2021 | 04:45 PM

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I would encourage you to search f-250 vs f-350 threads.

The F-250 comes standard at 10k GVWR, 9900 would be a derate. De-rating an F-350 to 10k changes the # on sticker but retains the physical differences (rear axle and springs), except for maybe dropping the hydro assist brakes......just noticed its a camper. F-350 would probably be best.

Oct 4, 2021 | 05:25 PM

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Which engine???
What cab and bed configuration?
What trim level?
All options make a difference in cargo capacity.

Oct 6, 2021 | 10:50 PM

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F-250 and F-350 are built very similarly to one another, and that's been the case for a number of years. There is old conventional wisdom that still persists on things like an F-350 rides rougher than an F-250. Beyond general truck-to-truck variations, there won't be really any difference between comparably equipped trucks. There may have been a time when a 1 ton had a thicker frame (similar to the F-150 HDPP vs F-150), had a different stance, and many different components. That's no longer true.

There really are only a few good reasons to opt for an F-250 over F-350:

Registration costs. In many areas, there are higher registration costs for vehicles over 10,000 GVWR. 10,001 - 14,000 lbs GVWR is a Class 3 truck and it may be cheaper in an area to register a Class 2 truck (which is up to 10,000 lbs GVWR). Depending on where you live, you may not want the F-350.
Insurance costs. Again, depending on where you live and also the company you insure with, there may be cost differences in insurance that are significant enough to warrant choosing an F-250.
Commercial licensure. If the truck is owned by a commercial business (construction, landscaping, e.g.), the GVWR of an F-350 may require employees to have some form of CDL to drive it. Especially for those who have a company truck, an F-250 is a lot easier to own due to government licensing rules for Class 3 trucks used in commercial settings. Again, dependent on where you live and this one is specific to commercial use.
Availability. If you're shopping off lots, then there are almost always a lot more options in the F-250 flavor versus F-350 ... typically, because the aforementioned conventional wisdom persists. Similar to people who want the 7.3L 4.30 combo ... you can't find many on lots, as most dealerships order with the 3.73 gearing. If you're buying off lots (or used, for that matter), you may be stuck shopping F-250s.

Those are good reasons to opt for the F-250 or, at least, look for a de-rating. Many people who buy F-250s, though, do so with poor reasons and would have been better served with an F-350.

Oct 6, 2021 | 11:11 PM

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I was told you could lose the potential hydro brakes on the 6.7 cclb 350 by going to 10,000 derating. Still no firm answer on that. And possibly not with the 11,400 derate.

Check your state laws because they may not count a recreational camper against payload but would obviously check your weight on tires/gawr for safety. I believe Oregon was like that.

The 10,800 hctp f250 shares all the mechanicals with the 11,500gvwr 350.

You should post your drivetrain and concerns and you will get a better answer and there is lots of variables.

Oct 7, 2021 | 05:39 AM

Rzr-runner1987

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Thanks for all the input, it’s a crew cab long bed lariat 7.3 4.30 rear end. I have a dry weight lance squire 9000 camper coming in at 2800lbs dry. I will occasionally using this camper for weekends towiing a rzr 4 seat on a open landscape trailer

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Oct 7, 2021 | 07:06 AM

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Check the link below for the maximum payload rating for your truck (I assume 2022 will be about the same as 2021). My truck (see signature below) maxes out at 3,470 lbs CCC. My door sticker says 3,417 lbs. So I got nearly the full rated payload. The more options you get, the less CCC you will have. The long bed has even less than the short bed by 260 lbs. My guess is you will quite likely be over your rating with a 2,800 lb dry weight camper by the time you add in all the stuff in the camper and passengers. Some people don't pay much attention to the ratings though and there appears to be little to no difference between a 250 and 350 so while you may exceed the sticker weight you won't exceed the actual ability of the truck. But insurance and police may think otherwise if you are in an accident. Though I have never even heard of a case like that even on the internet. So unless you are grossly, obviously way beyond weight it may never be an issue even in an accident.

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Oct 7, 2021 | 10:19 AM

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You stated that you were ordering (or have already ordered) an F-250. The question is why? Perhaps the reason lines up with one or more of the issues mentioned in my post above. If not, then you should follow the trend of vehicles in your signature and stick with the F-350. I imagine that the 2,800 lbs you cite is the fictional dry weight of the camper. After factory options, dealer options, and the gear you add to it, it will be closer to 3,500 lbs when sitting in your bed. That's not F-250 territory and many people with 3,000+ in-bed campers opt for DRW.