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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 06:39 PM
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Hey, I was looking at Sherwin-automotive.com and found some cheap Single stage paint under there Western refinishing system link. What is the best way to use single stage paint? the single stage paint they offer is around $50. I was thinking of priming my truck with Eastwood Rust Encapsulator then topcoating it with this single stage paint. I dont want a show truck just a decent paint job. This truck is spefically for plowing and working so i want it to be pretty heavy duty and easy to repair(scratches, etc..). What do you all think?
 

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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 10:47 PM
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I've looked at that too. Couldn't see much different between that and the Rustoleum Farm and Equipment oil-based enamels (look under specialty at www.rustoleum.com). Further, if you like the john deere yellow, green, blitz black, or gloss black, or the john deere variant of IH Case red, its even cheaper. From reading the labels, there really doesn't seem to be much difference. My wife doesn't like the JD colors. Sigh. A little "loud" and/or "orange" for her tastes.

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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 04:51 PM
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Will i get the same quality with rust-oleum? Whats the best way to go? Should i use the eastwood Eastwood rust encapsulator underneath or just paint it bear metal? Have you used the rust-oleum? Thanks
 

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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 09:18 PM
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I think there are people here who know a lot more about paint than I do. Perhaps Aekisu will chime in... I think the good paint guys just want to wretch when they see people seriously discussing paint like this though ))

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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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For what it's worth, I did a little experiment over the weekend. I went to the JD store and bought some rattle cans of their primer/sealer and paint (blitz black and IH Red). I sanded down an area about 8" square in two places on my cab (which is on a dolly in the garage for a few months anyway) and primered and painted it with the JD stuff. The red looks pretty solid and glossy, the black looked good too. Both smoothed out fairly well when drying. Don't know how they'd look if I did a more thorough test (self-etching primer, JD primer/sealer, fine grit sanding, spraying). Maybe that'll be the next test.

Don't know if I'd trust a 'red' from John Deere. However, this stuff is made to protect tractors which have a far tougher life than a show truck.

From what I've read, as an acrylic enamel, it develops some porosity during the curing process. However, at $8/quart, there seems to be little argument against putting on more or thicker coats (vs the $300+ gallon stuff). After having way too many vehicles suffer the indignity of receiving parking lot scars (from thoughtless morons opening doors or ramming shopping carts against them), the thought of being able to repair such a scar in a matter of minutes is very appealing.

Function first, form second.

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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 01:33 PM
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i think im going to test a few of the cheaper paints out myself such as rust-oleom, JD, etc... The man that im buying this plow truck from says make offer, so it will be very cheap to purchase the truck and a perfect guinea pig for testing paints out on. let me know how you make out on yours, thanks
 
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