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Good morning everyone. I’m looking at trading in my half ton Silverado and getting another hd truck. I have had a few Ford super duty’s in the past. An f250 with the 5.4 and an f250 with the 6.7 power stroke. My next truck will be one of the big 3 3/4 ton pick ups. I’m leaning heavily toward gas. I don’t like the maintenance or costs of any of the newer diesels. My powerstroke lost one injector and it cost me 1500 to replace it. I definitely don’t want to deal with that again especially since I can’t pull a cab off of a truck.
I looked at a Silverado 2500 and an f250 over the weekend. The f250 was trash but Also had 120k more miles than the Silverado with the 6.0. That 6.0 seemed to run at least 10 times better than the 6.2. My question is, was that Ford just a complete turd or am I going to be underwhelmed and disappointed in all of these early 6.2 super duty’s? I fully expect a good condition 6.2 Ford to run circles around gm’s old 6.0. Some people have been getting 400k miles out of these super duty’s but I know people with close to that on the gm 6.0’s as well.
I have not looked at a ram with the 6.4 in it yet but I may look at one of those or one with the older 5.7 depending on the deal I find. There doesn’t seem to be very many deals out there right now but I bought a brand new ram 1500 in 2018 and the engine was on its way out with 38k miles. Thanks everyone.
The 6.2 ford and 6.0 chevy are both great. Had better luck with my 6.2s.
6.2 has generally had early fuel pump failure issues you read about sometimes, but then again my 6.0 did too and it failed abruptly.
On the 6.2 you will want to do the fluids and plugs at 100k, most likely the evaporative emissions vapor canister purge valve ($20), and clean up the intake/sensors like a typical fuel injected vehicle.
6.2 super duty is pretty bulletproof. I wouldn’t worry about it.
The 6.2 ford and 6.0 chevy are both great. Had better luck with my 6.2s.
6.2 has generally had early fuel pump failure issues you read about sometimes, but then again my 6.0 did too and it failed abruptly.
On the 6.2 you will want to do the fluids and plugs at 100k, most likely the evaporative emissions vapor canister purge valve ($20), and clean up the intake/sensors like a typical fuel injected vehicle.
6.2 super duty is pretty bulletproof. I wouldn’t worry about it.
the only somewhat common issue I read about on the 6.2 was the weak valve springs.
The 6.2 ford will out pull both the 6.0 chevy and the 6.4 dodge. Their is a youtube video compairing them new. You said the ford you looked at had 120K more miles and was thrashed so thir is you answer about the two trucks you looked at and compaired.The 6.4 dodge had transmission issues. If you are going to 10,000 pounds or less then a gas motor is a great choice.Their is a guy on here called flatbed ed that got over 400,000 miles on his 6.2 in a f350.
The 6.2 ford will out pull both the 6.0 chevy and the 6.4 dodge. Their is a youtube video compairing them new. You said the ford you looked at had 120K more miles and was thrashed so thir is you answer about the two trucks you looked at and compaired.The 6.4 dodge had transmission issues. If you are going to 10,000 pounds or less then a gas motor is a great choice.Their is a guy on here called flatbed ed that got over 400,000 miles on his 6.2 in a f350.
I'm going to respectfully disagree with a lot of what you've said here. My 6.4 Hemi in my Power Wagon pulls harder than any 6.2 Ford I've driven to date, and I have driven several (owned none I'll admit). I know guys pulling 12-15k with a 2500 or 3500 Ram with no issues. Sure, a diesel will do it better but the 6.4 does it just fine.
The issue with the 6.4 is NOT the transmissions, either the 6 speed or the current 8 speed, they're both pretty bulletproof. The shift programming for the 6-speed wasn't changed between the diesel and the gasser, which is why some guys complain about bad shifts, but a tune generally takes care of it. The biggest issue for the 6.4 Hemi is the MDS system that SOME guys have had major issue issues with. I haven't experienced it myself in 75k miles, but some guys who have had issues have had multiple sets in less than 50k miles. Even so, you can disable the MDS in various ways and never have an issue with it.
Both motors, though, will run circles around the 6.0 Chevy. Granted the 6.0 is a pretty decent motor, but both the Ford and the Ram motor have more.
I'm going to respectfully disagree with a lot of what you've said here. My 6.4 Hemi in my Power Wagon pulls harder than any 6.2 Ford I've driven to date, and I have driven several (owned none I'll admit). I know guys pulling 12-15k with a 2500 or 3500 Ram with no issues. Sure, a diesel will do it better but the 6.4 does it just fine.
The issue with the 6.4 is NOT the transmissions, either the 6 speed or the current 8 speed, they're both pretty bulletproof. The shift programming for the 6-speed wasn't changed between the diesel and the gasser, which is why some guys complain about bad shifts, but a tune generally takes care of it. The biggest issue for the 6.4 Hemi is the MDS system that SOME guys have had major issue issues with. I haven't experienced it myself in 75k miles, but some guys who have had issues have had multiple sets in less than 50k miles. Even so, you can disable the MDS in various ways and never have an issue with it.
Both motors, though, will run circles around the 6.0 Chevy. Granted the 6.0 is a pretty decent motor, but both the Ford and the Ram motor have more.
A gassed 6.8 is the way to go.. No noise, they are runners.. Issue is plug changes when you don't clean the treads (designed to put all the dirt in the cylinder/treads when removed). You clean treads you will never have a problem..
They can pull whatever you want plus you save thousands vs the oil engines..
Good morning everyone. I’m looking at trading in my half ton Silverado and getting another hd truck. I have had a few Ford super duty’s in the past. An f250 with the 5.4 and an f250 with the 6.7 power stroke. My next truck will be one of the big 3 3/4 ton pick ups. I’m leaning heavily toward gas. I don’t like the maintenance or costs of any of the newer diesels. My powerstroke lost one injector and it cost me 1500 to replace it. I definitely don’t want to deal with that again especially since I can’t pull a cab off of a truck.
I looked at a Silverado 2500 and an f250 over the weekend. The f250 was trash but Also had 120k more miles than the Silverado with the 6.0. That 6.0 seemed to run at least 10 times better than the 6.2. My question is, was that Ford just a complete turd or am I going to be underwhelmed and disappointed in all of these early 6.2 super duty’s? I fully expect a good condition 6.2 Ford to run circles around gm’s old 6.0. Some people have been getting 400k miles out of these super duty’s but I know people with close to that on the gm 6.0’s as well.
I have not looked at a ram with the 6.4 in it yet but I may look at one of those or one with the older 5.7 depending on the deal I find. There doesn’t seem to be very many deals out there right now but I bought a brand new ram 1500 in 2018 and the engine was on its way out with 38k miles. Thanks everyone.
No ownership experience, but I have seen many posts and videos in other forums discussing the long term durability of the current generation Mopar V8s, in particular, valvetrain failure before reaching 100k miles due to an inadequate supply of oil.
No ownership experience, but I have seen many posts and videos in other forums discussing the long term durability of the current generation Mopar V8s, in particular, valvetrain failure before reaching 100k miles due to an inadequate supply of oil.
Do your own research.
I'm on several of those since I have one. I have 75k on mine and running strong with no issues. Lots of the guys aren't having any issues. But the ones that do, have a LOT of issues. Seems to possibly be related to long idle times but again, there is conflicting data on that as well.
i dont pull that heavy, about 9k camper about 6-8 times and year and full bed loads of fresh cut firewood. i do however beat on the truck very hard. It has spent hours on the dyno and street datalogging to 6100 rpms. i have never had an issue with my truck i didnt cause. no mechanical failures.
I have a Chevy 6.0 2500hd 4wd, and a Ford F450 4wd with v-10. Both are good trucks. The Ford is built for pulling heavy trailers, has a 488 rear gear, the Chevy about 410. No comparison when pulling my 7x20 cow trailer with 12 cows in the back. The cows weigh about 1100 each. The Ford handles my trailer with skidsteer loaded easily as well.
I'm going to respectfully disagree with a lot of what you've said here. My 6.4 Hemi in my Power Wagon pulls harder than any 6.2 Ford I've driven to date, and I have driven several (owned none I'll admit). I know guys pulling 12-15k with a 2500 or 3500 Ram with no issues. Sure, a diesel will do it better but the 6.4 does it just fine.
The issue with the 6.4 is NOT the transmissions, either the 6 speed or the current 8 speed, they're both pretty bulletproof. The shift programming for the 6-speed wasn't changed between the diesel and the gasser, which is why some guys complain about bad shifts, but a tune generally takes care of it. The biggest issue for the 6.4 Hemi is the MDS system that SOME guys have had major issue issues with. I haven't experienced it myself in 75k miles, but some guys who have had issues have had multiple sets in less than 50k miles. Even so, you can disable the MDS in various ways and never have an issue with it.
Both motors, though, will run circles around the 6.0 Chevy. Granted the 6.0 is a pretty decent motor, but both the Ford and the Ram motor have more.
What gears does your dodge have? I know the older power wagons had 4.56s (not sure about the new ones). That would certainly explain your experience if you're comparing it to a 6.2 with 3.73s.
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