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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 05:34 PM
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Why Wi-Fi for Apple carplay?

I've got a 22 F350 Lariat with the 12" screen and Sync 4. When I attempt to connect to apple carplay using Bluetooth, I get a message to either use a usb cable or turn on Wi-Fi to complete the connection. Both methods work, but since when to you need to use a Wi-Fi signal instead of the most common Bluetooth method. Also, I know that I get limited Wi-Fi free for a trial period, but will I have to pay subscription fees if I want to continue with carplay wirelessly? Using a cord isn't the end of the world, (I do in my 4Runner) but when I first heard about the sync 4 wireless connectivity I thought it was kind of a nice feature. My real question is did a get a bad unit or is Wi-Fi the only way to get carplay wirelessly?
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 05:43 PM
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Mine wants the wifi as well to be wireless. Already threw a cord in there.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 05:58 PM
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Maybe your iphone needs updated, or a later OS, older stuff won't work with SYNC 4.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Ltngdrvr
Maybe your iphone needs updated, or a later OS, older stuff won't work with SYNC 4.
I've got an iPhone 11 with the latest update, so that's not the case. I just checked my owners manual and it says it can be connected with Bluetooth but even after checking all the settings on my phone and in the truck, it won't connect the 2.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 06:08 PM
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Wireless CarPlay has nothing to do with the actual free trial of WiFi in your vehicle.

Have you tried a Master Reset of the SYNC 4 system?

Do you know how to do this?

Also, make sure you don’t have the Hotspot feature on your iPhone turned on while plugged into USB. When attempting to use Bluetooth, the message you mentioned will pop up.

Many times once this is done, weird problems such as the one you’re having will clear up.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GABAR
Wireless CarPlay has nothing to do with the actual free trial of WiFi in your vehicle.

Have you tried a Master Reset of the SYNC 4 system?

Do you know how to do this?

Many times once this is done, weird problems such as the one you’re having will clear up.

No I haven't and don't know how. I've only had the truck for about 3 weeks so I'll probably just take it back to the dealer to fix. I'm not big on using the dealer except as a last resort. I don't really want to go through the hassle of leaving my new truck there for a period of time for anything I can fix myself. I want to make sure it isn't an error on my part before the "mechanics" at the dealer get a good laugh at the idiot who wasn't smart enough to synch his phone to the truck.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 06:38 PM
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No I haven't and don't know how. I've only had the truck for about 3 weeks so I'll probably just take it back to the dealer to fix. I'm not big on using the dealer except as a last resort. I don't really want to go through the hassle of leaving my new truck there for a period of time for anything I can fix myself. I want to make sure it isn't an error on my part before the "mechanics" at the dealer get a good laugh at the idiot who wasn't smart enough to synch his phone to the truck.
A Master Reset can be done by the owner so there’s no need to go to your dealer.

On the actual 12 inch screen on the center stack, just press settings, then general, scroll down and press reset then tap Master Reset and follow the screen prompts.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GABAR
A Master Reset can be done by the owner so there’s no need to go to your dealer.

On the actual 12 inch screen on the center stack, just press settings, then general, scroll down and press reset then tap Master Reset and follow the screen prompts.

I'll give it a shot tomorrow. Will I have to re-do all my Fordpass crap, or will that stay in memory? I'm assuming that if I re-synch my phone it should all still be there since everything is on the app.
 
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Old Sep 3, 2021 | 07:13 PM
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All is well. Wireless Appleplay just uses both BT and WiFi to do its thing. The wireless connection is between your phone and the Sync 4 system. It should keep working fine once the trial runs out since they are two totally different things.

 
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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by blackdog2086
I've got a 22 F350 Lariat with the 12" screen and Sync 4. When I attempt to connect to apple carplay using Bluetooth, I get a message to either use a usb cable or turn on Wi-Fi to complete the connection. Both methods work, but since when to you need to use a Wi-Fi signal instead of the most common Bluetooth method. Also, I know that I get limited Wi-Fi free for a trial period, but will I have to pay subscription fees if I want to continue with carplay wirelessly? Using a cord isn't the end of the world, (I do in my 4Runner) but when I first heard about the sync 4 wireless connectivity I thought it was kind of a nice feature. My real question is did a get a bad unit or is Wi-Fi the only way to get carplay wirelessly?
I've got the same thing going on, and I'm pretty sure it's not what you think. The new Sync 4 system allows Android Auto or Apple Car Play to connect without a USB cord. Seems pretty cool, and it connects right away, so that's what I'm doing. The other day I noticed my 12" Sync 4 screen was showing my phone was connected to wi-fi signal. At first I thought my wife had her hotspot turned on, but she didn't. Then I thought maybe I was connected to the free wi-fi trial but it wasn't that either, because later I got a nag screen asking if I wanted to activate that. After checking the price for AT&T's plan online I decided against that because it's pretty expensive and we already have unlimited data plans from Verizon on our phones. Then, while reading the truck manual, I stumbled across a section that says you need the truck's modem to be on for things like FordPass to work. I'm not certain but I think the wi-fi connection we're seeing is just the truck's modem, and that's what Ford is using to connect Android Auto and Apple Car Play wirelessly.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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I believe it works the same way as say a wireless printer works…you have to connect to the trucks WiFi it’s not using a data plan per day just a way to connect to the truck
 
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I believe it works the same way as say a wireless printer works…you have to connect to the trucks WiFi it’s not using a data plan per day just a way to connect to the truck
 
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Old Sep 4, 2021 | 10:56 AM
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The way it works is:
Your phone hooks up to Sync4 with bluetooth and announces that it can do screen sharing
Sync4 turns on wifi and sends the details to the phone over bluetooth
The phone joins the wifi network and starts sharing the screen wirelessly

This is pretty much how it works when you use a cable too (you'll notice bluetooth is active even with the cable attached) and bluetooth is acting as the "control" channel to get things connected and organized, but it doesnt have the bandwidth to actually move all the data to update the screen, so it has to switch to either a cable or wifi.. this has nothing to do with the wifi hotspot, which you may not be able to use at the same time as your auo screen sharing (I haven't tried this)
 
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