Help please '04F150 ignition
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Help please '04F150 ignition
2004 ford f150 fx4 ,so I lost my truck key ,I have only owed one key since I got the truck ,I love my truck ,a friend drilled out my ignition,I purchased a new ignition and keys from the auto parts house ,first of all the tumbler doesn't fit and I don't think there r any chips in the keys ,can somebody please help I need my truck I live way up a mountain it's important to have wheels,can I just take the pats security out all together or bypass it so I can start it
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Your key probably had a chip. My '98 Exploder had one, why wouldn't yours?
Taking PATS out or bypassing it is easier said than done.
I think you are looking at a tow to someone who can program a new ignition and key to the truck.
I moved your post here as this is the forum for your truck and others who have had this issue will chime in.
Good luck!
Taking PATS out or bypassing it is easier said than done.
I think you are looking at a tow to someone who can program a new ignition and key to the truck.
I moved your post here as this is the forum for your truck and others who have had this issue will chime in.
Good luck!
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Of course it's equipped with PATS. All F150s got the system starting in 1999 model year.
You have three choices to get it running again:
1. Pull the PCM and ship it off to someone who can reprogram it to delete the PATS function. You'd still need to get a proper cylinder/key set that works mechanically.
2. Buy a tuner with "PATS delete" option added. Ditto on the cylinder/keys.
3. Get the PROPER cylinder with new PATS keys and re-program PATS correctly. Buy one or two spare PATS keys, have them cut, and program them as spares so you don't get stuck in this same situation again.
#3 can be done DIY with Forscan, you can hire a mobile locksmith/mechanic, if any are around, who can come to your remote location, or you can have it towed to a dealer or shop who can do the work.
You have three choices to get it running again:
1. Pull the PCM and ship it off to someone who can reprogram it to delete the PATS function. You'd still need to get a proper cylinder/key set that works mechanically.
2. Buy a tuner with "PATS delete" option added. Ditto on the cylinder/keys.
3. Get the PROPER cylinder with new PATS keys and re-program PATS correctly. Buy one or two spare PATS keys, have them cut, and program them as spares so you don't get stuck in this same situation again.
#3 can be done DIY with Forscan, you can hire a mobile locksmith/mechanic, if any are around, who can come to your remote location, or you can have it towed to a dealer or shop who can do the work.
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Your best bet is to get a pro to repair key cyl and make you 4 pat keys .The pcm is not going to let you bypass pats system . Even if you ship it off for a delete you still are going to have to repair key cyl . Its not just a way to get it to crank, that's easy , its firing the injectors /cops etc with timing pulses .
To make you feel better I had 6 pats keys ,I'm now down to two keys .
Be prepared to prove ownership of vehicle, no one should fix it unless they check it out . If it comes up stolen there's going to be trouble . By law they are required to report it .
To make you feel better I had 6 pats keys ,I'm now down to two keys .
Be prepared to prove ownership of vehicle, no one should fix it unless they check it out . If it comes up stolen there's going to be trouble . By law they are required to report it .
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