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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 07:44 PM
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F350 Brake problems

I just got the front end on my F350 back together and took it for a short drive on the interstate. Both sides have new brake pads and repacked wheel bearings and the right side (passenger) had a new rotor replaced, the brake caliper(sp) on the right side was tough to compress, even with the master cylinder cap off (I do this no matter what). Anyways, today I took the truck out and it drove fine for about 10 minutes and then I smelled brakes getting hot, and when I hit the brake, it went hard left. Upon further inspection while stopped the right side smelled bad and the rotor and rim were hot to the touch, while the left side was normal. My guess is the caliper on the right hand side is either stuck or partially stuck but why would it pull to the left while pressing on the brake in motion?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 08:11 PM
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The one on the right was engaged -ALWAYS, thus when you applied braked the right side was already on the rotor, and the left was just engageing..........caliper is stuck with air behind it or mositure in the system causing it to bind. Rebuild or replace.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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Thats what I figured. I wonder if they still have rebuilt or new brake calipers at the auto parts places, F350's are hard to find in bone yards around here and when you find one, its a shell only.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 11:04 AM
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Calipers should be easy to find. I think the dual piston calipers for my f-250HD were like $30 a piece. AFAIK, the front calipers on my HD should be the same as a F-350
 
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Hot brakes don't work near as good as cool brakes this could be the cause of the pull to the left. And if there is air in the right side that will cause it too.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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I'm going to replace the caliper. Anyways, where is the bleeder on the right (passenger) caliper and is there a bleeder on the master cylinder (other than the MC cap). On these trucks, do you need to bleed all 4 wheels or just the one that the work is being done to? Thanx
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:36 PM
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I haven't been into my F150's front brakes yet, but the bleeder on older Fords is usually above where the line attaches on the back of the caliper. Master cylinders don't have a bleeder, you'll have to take it off and bench bleed it if you feel it needs it. Anytime you open the lines on a brake system it's best to bleed the whole system. Start with the wheel furthest from the MC (pass. rear) and work to the closest to the MC (driver ft.)
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 01:05 PM
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I was hoping that I wouldn't hear that, bleed the whole system, blah. Anyways, if a new caliper is gonna be installed I knew it would need to be bled while in the system but I was hoping I could localize the work to that front right wheel, ohh well.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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New conclusions:

I got the wheel off and the rotor is at the same resistance as it was when I put it on. Like I said I had to put a brake rotor and new pads on and I repacked the wheel bearings. Anyways, just to get the pads on I had to bottom the wheel cylinders out to get the new pads onto the new rotors and even with this, there was a little resistance which I thought would go away after I drove the trucks a few miles. Discolored rotors and brake shoes with a slight tinge of burning brakes proved this theory wrong. The resistance against the rotor is still the same as when I put the brakes on the first time. Any sugestions?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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Did you replace your caliper?
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:00 PM
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Never took it off. It doesn't fit the chraraistic of a stuck caplier, as I replaced them on other vehicles before. The brakes are still tough on the rotor but the capiler still engages like it should with the brake pedal being pushed. I might try bleeding just that capiler to see if it relieves the preasure on the rotor, might also be a moot point too.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:54 PM
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Something sounds tweeked or not together quite right, not allowing the caliper to slide and center itself.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 04:57 PM
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Are both sides of the rotor discolored?

if your caliper was hard to compress, either it is corroded/rusted, or there is a clogged line.

More than likely, your caliper is hosed.
 

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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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I don't see how it could bind, the design is pretty simple and both "floater pins" are centered as they should be. My guess is the caliper needs to be replaced which is no problem. The old caliper was hard to compress, almost broke a c-clamp doing it, and even bottomed out, the pads were real snug against the rotor, creating the friction on both sides to bring us to where we are. Thanks for the help guys, I got some work to do this weekend, hehe.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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Went to get the capiler today but they wanted to know if I wanted "semi-loaded" or "fully loaded". Whats the difference other than a drastic price change?
 
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