Payload sticker
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Yes. The payload sticker is the vehicle curb weight when all fluids are full. There was a time when it also included 150lbs. for a driver, but this is no longer true. Payload is GVWR less the "ready" curb weight.
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The owners manual also has a section called, Load Carrying, it includes examples of how to figure if you are over or under payload capacity based on the number shown on the sticker.
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The actual payload of a given truck is the truck's GVWR less the weight of that truck as it rolled off the line wet (GVW) ... Payload = GVWR - GVW. Unless you (or some 150 lb person) were sitting in the truck when the factory weighed it, then the driver's weight will count 100% against the available payload.
From what I know, this has been true as long as payload ratings were given (early 2000s) on door jamb stickers. To my knowledge, there was never a time when the 150 lb driver allotment was made to payload and then, at some point, it wasn't. It was always as stated above: payload rating on the sticker = GVWR - GVW as it rolled off the line at the factory. But, for as long as the rating has been available, people have conflated Tow Capacity and other numbers that do make a 150 lb driver allotment with Payload (which does not).
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From: Canyon Lake
The actual payload of a given truck is the truck's GVWR less the weight of that truck as it rolled off the line wet (GVW) ... Payload = GVWR - GVW. Unless you (or some 150 lb person) were sitting in the truck when the factory weighed it, then the driver's weight will count 100% against the available payload.
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From: Ridgway, CO
Might as well nitpick, that is what the thread is all about. Worrying about a few hundred pounds either way that won't make any difference.
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From: Poway, CA
I will never understand the payload sticker obsession. It is nothing more than a snapshot of one particular moment in time. At this point, the payload sticker on my truck does not contain one piece of useful information. As a matter of fact, it is all misinformation. I have replaced the tires with a different size so the inflation recommendations are now irrelevant. Once I brought the truck home and added the bedrug, fifth wheel hitch, tool box, etc., the payload number became meaningless. About the only time it would be useful is if you were on a dealer lot comparing multiple trucks side by side...and that isn't a thing anymore.
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See pages 9 - 15 in the attached 2021 spec brochure for Ford’s definitions.
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Jim / crewzer
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The last time I weighed 150 lbs., I was too young for a driver’s license!
Safe travels,
Jim / crewzer
Safe travels,
Jim / crewzer