if you're a female and I got your attention and you are reading this , good, please read on. If you're a male, it will be boring to you, so you might want to pass on this one
Another co-ed got raped last night at our local university parking lot. A total of 4 so far this year, same university. Not long ago a nearby college girl was raped, sodomized, beaten, and then set on fire alive, and burned to death by two young males, in her dorm room. Her crime ? she danced at a local club to put her way thru college, and wouldnt go out with one of them.. CAN you for one moment, IMAGINE being the parent of that young lady? How could you ever get what they put that girl through, in her last moments of life, out of your mind as her parent ? Yes, topless dancing is not the way most of us parents would want our daughters to finance their education, but not all young people have the better choices granted to them, and its certainly not justification for that kind of treatment. Last month, a 57 year grandmother living a hundred miles west of me, was beaten to death in front of her 8 yr old grandchild, by her daughters raging boyfriend.
So , heres my rant. I am so sick of hearing and seeing on the media , of women being victims to sex pervs, beaters and other degenerates. I was involved in a thread not long ago on this forum about the pros (mostly) and cons of the CCW ( concealed carry weapon permit). It was kind of humorous to me, to see all of these big ,strapping 6 ft plus, 220 lb plus, guys on here, post about needing this CCW permit to "protect " themselves.. How many guys have you seen in the news lately that were beaten/raped/sodomized lately? Why, didnt I see more posts here from women with, or wanting CCW, THEY are the ones really needing them!
After I married my wife, I became real concerned for her safety, because I was gone from home a lot. I taught ( she knew a lot of my precautions already) her to ALWAYS be aware of her surroundings, know how to park in safer well lit places, to never leave her doors in the van unlocked - parked or driving,watch for guys that are watching her, and to NEVER open the door to our home to any male she doesnt know. I dont care if he has on greasy jeans or a $3 k suit on.. She now owns a S&W .38 Ladysmith , and knows how to use it. There is no law saying just because your door bell rings you have to unlock and open your door, just let them go away and if its important and they know you, they will call. Once the door to your home is opened, the game is over, and your the prize. Get a large view peephole put in the door, if you have no small window in the door/wall..
My wife knows that , if she is ever attacked, to scream as hard as she can, and fight back instantly with all she has got. It doens't matter if the guy has a knife or gun, she knows if she gets forced in to the pervs car, its over with anyway, she will then die after he is "done" with her , so its better to get cut, or hit with a bullet , than to be tied up like a deer and die slowly at the hands of a maniac. .. At least screaming and fighting, someone may get notified, and the perv may see its not worth it, plus the odds of a fatal shot in a struggle are a bit lessened, more so than the barrel stuck in your ear later , after he is done with you.
Women are the victims most of the time, mostly because of being the less strong physically of the genders, least likely to fight back because of that, and just plain ole being too trusting. I apologize for the less than fun reading, but today's society is showing no mercy for the unsuspecting. Take a self defence class, go for a CCW, if not interested in those two, just use a lot of caution and common sense to protect yourself, and realize YOU are your first line of defense, not the police.
Sorry for the rant ladies, am just so sickened by EVERY day, day in day out, I read and hear about another wife, estranged wife, ex wife, mother, stepmother, grandmother, little girl, being another victim to a male attacker. Hopefully this rant may get someones attention and help them be just a little bit safer, thats all I can hope for anyway. Be safe,

 

well if there were punishments for rape- there would practically be no rapes....

if a chick turns me down- i move on to the next prospective girlfriend- but theres some psycos who would do what you mentioned above... now if punishment was "an eye for an eye" not just a few years in prison with 3 meals a day, a gym to workout in and a free college education with health insurance, people might think twice before the crime. if those guys got raped, sodomized, and set on fire her family might feel justified. then again i might be a barbarian for saying that, and they might be the forgiving type. i could never forgive something like that

 

Almost makes you want self-defense, the dirty way, to be an absolute requirement for every little girl. Pacifism and acting "lady-like" are a bunch of hooey!

Little kids need to learn to yell for help earlier rather than later, we can sort out the details when they're safe. And grownups need to learn to react to screams. On the other hand, kids need to learn to scream in a terrified voice only when they need help.

I had a neighbor whose son screamed like a little girl whenever he got angry or frustrated. It teaches people to ignore the sound of kids, or adults, in trouble. The screams of fun and enjoyment definitely have a different and pleasurable sound ...

Ladies, you need to pipe up.

Punishments should be public and meted out by the victims or their loved ones.

 

well believe it or not, its not just females that are victems of that sort of thing. That story is actually pretty similer to one that happend here.

Two men kidnapped a teenage boy, raped and tortured him over a period of 4 days, then dragged the boy to a forested area, covered him in gas and set him on fire and left him for dead. The boy didnt die however, he somehow managed to walk or crawl about 4 miles to a nearby highway. Just by act of god or chance, the boy's father actually drove by and saw the boy on the side of the road.

The boy was able to give a full description of the men, and where they lived. He died in the hospital two weeks after he was found though.

The men were both sentanced to death. However, one was retarted...and it was actually this man that started the entire contravery over killing retarted people, and he was able to get his sentance reduced to life in prison.

I dunno, its a sad story. The stripper girl story is certainly sad, but whats stranger about this one is that these guys didnt even know the boy and had no reason at all to do what they did to him.

I guess my point is EVERYONE has to look out. I'm not interested in men at all, but I've been to regular every day places like supermarkets where guys would sexually propisition me, when i'd refuse they'd threaten my life. I've even had a guy grope me in a novelty shop, which led to a fight where the guy pulled a knife on me and slashed my thigh before i subdued him.

I guess i have cute boyish good looks that drives the sex perverts mad. So i'm always worried about one of these guys myself. Crazy world....

 

This world is a scary, scary place. For the last ten years, since stopping being a clone of the military, I have been involved in the protection of young and innocent people from the ravages of the perverts. What I have seen would make any of you cringe, what Sliknspeedy had to suffer before I found her would make all of you cry. It is true that every female human being is at risk from society's dross pile. The psycho wards are emptied because of the lack of funding, and the dangerous crazy folk get to roam the streets - that is society's fault, not the fault of the victim, or even the fault of the perv. Go, if you will, to central downtown, where ever you live, late at night - carry you legally carried weapon with you, and see what the dregs of humanity look like. The vast majority of random sex crimes occur where these dregs live, so they are the common enemy, who should be placed into hospital conditions, and kept off the streets, but funds are not available. Learn who your local enemy is, and watch your daughters, so they do not date the raging beast, who would kill them rather than loose them, or fail to copulate with them. Educate your children, to make them fully aware of EVERYTHING around them. Regularly, I am approached by a child in a supermarket, or parking lot, because they can't find their mommy, could I help. God was helping every child that has ever approached me, because I help them immediately, if necessary by calling the police. If parents would educate their kids, they would not get lost, nothing would become more important for them than mommy, when out of the house.

CCW are the only answer to the crunch situation - when a stronger, raging animal attacks, who ever you are; female, male, fit or unfit, the only way you will win is if you can effectively stop the mad man. I appreciate that many men are under the impression that a 6'2" 220 lb guy is capable of stopping a rapist. If you are that guy, try not to get into the situation - most guys cannot fight for their lives, they have NO CLUE what to do, other than flay around getting hacked to pieces by the nutter. I admit, you never see such things in the media, mainly because it does not fit the horror profile that the media uses to fill it's junk. However, male rape happens ALL of the time, usually not reported to authorities, because of shame. Why be ashamed, I do not know - the victim is NEVER at fault, be they male, female, young or old. The aggressor picks the time, the place and sets the rules of engagement, you, the victim, have nothing to do with it, so be aware of your enemy, educate the vulnerable (any one who does not have training to deal with such situations) and learn who the enemy is.

Drugs make for enemies, drink makes for enemies, smokers are more aggressive than non smokers... (controversy there) avoid those who cuss all the time, avoid those who freak you out - instinct often recognizes danger, that we ignore to our peril. Teach all your children that they are responsible for their own safety - that way they get to develop survival instincts, and teach them how to use whatever is legal for them to use.

Also, carry plenty of ammo - an auto pistol is far better than a revolver for that reason only - magazines full of ammo take up little space, and can save your life - I have records of many people who met their demise, whilst reloading the revolver. (I know, there are speed loaders, but most revolver carriers do not have any, have not trained using them, and fumble too much when stressed; an auto magazine slips easily into one hole, the speedloader tries to put 5 or 6 bullets into corresponding holes, a recipe for disaster..

This is a real good subject to discuss, Greg..

Theo

 

God made Man... Sam Colt made them equal...

 

Here is a woman's reply.
You are absolutely right. All of you.
We need to be aware that the world is a dangerous place everywhere. I have a CCW, but I stopped carrying after I had my children. I plan to start again, as soon as they get a bit older. My ex, is a 4th degree black belt in Kenpo karate. I learned alot from him in the years we were married. Now my two daughters go to classes every week, and they are personally trained by their dad on a constant basis. They are not girly girls. I just hope that all that we have taught them will never need to be used.
But you also bneed to be aware that violence and abuse is something that not only happens outside of your home. There are also sickos within families. Growing up in a latino family, the distrust in men is ingrained in most females at an early age. Incest runs rampant. Sorry to step on toes here. But I have yet to see anything to prove otherwise.
So how can we change this. It's all education. We need to educate ourselves and our children to the dangers. A gun won't neccessarily solve the problem. Your awareness and caution will keep you safe. Your level head, and self defense will hopefully save you. And we need to make sure that we try not to put ourselves in an unhealthy situation.

In case you guys are wondering. I used to carry a snub-nose 357magnum Colt revolver. Stainless with black molded hand grip. Not very womanly like. But it didn't feel like a toy, and I knew that I could bring someone down with it. And I had two sets of speed loaders on my belt. Practice makes perfect.

 

There is something in me that really wants tot reply to this but another part that doesn't know what to say. At the beginning of the year there were some incidents, one at University of Maine - Orono, and a murder at Colby College, 45 minutes apart, and my school in between them. I can't explain the terrible feeling that I have when I think that someone could treat another human being like this. I am so afraid for my friends that are attending school in Minnesota. Neither of them have any kind of self defense training and neither of them have any kind of firearms safety/use training. I wish that I could show them, but they aren't interested. I don't know how to tell them that its important. Maybe I just worry too much.

 

this is a scary world sometimes. my girlfriend currently goes to a big state university, and everytime i take her back to her dorm i get worried and i even walk her all the way to her room. she always wants to ride her bike to my place but i won't let her. she says i worry to much, i tell her to open her eyes. she hasn't seen what i have. i worry everyday about her, there have been three rapes this semester. the good thing though is she does know how to fight pretty good, i'm just worried about when she's not paying attention. there needs to be harsher punishment, no doubt about it. just one problem, it is hard sometimes to prove rape. it comes down to her word against his, nothing proven. and there are those types that will call rape that didn't happen to get back at people.

like i said, sometimes you have to wonder about this world... so wonderfull and times, yet so ugly other times.

 

well equal to a point. there are people out there who could hit the broad side of a barn. even with a 12ga.

 

Very good point on the education part, NH. I guess I was trying to do a little of that by bringing up this, less than fun, topic. I got my wife the 357. Colt (Trooper 4in barrel) mag too, for her first handgun, it recoiled too much, and made her scared off it. So, I got her the SW.38 LS, not as much KO power, but with the small frame, less recoil, it fits her hand better. Education will go a long way on self protection, thats for sure. Awareness of the "situation" that one exposes themselves to , seems to be the part people forget. Case in point ; I drive to work the same time every morning, hit the same stop light at about 7:am , just a block from work. At this time is it still dim out, and just breaking dawn, but the street lights are still on , and they are not great lighting , by any means. As I am driving up to the stop light every morning, I see this 25 -30 yr old mother jogging alone, while pushing a baby stroller. Now , this street is almost uninhabited at this time of the morning. There are a few houses around, and a few small business places on the side of the street she is jogging down. She has the local university jacket on and even the stroller has the bright school colors, so I will assume she or her husband, is a student. The way I see it, unless she has a 120 lb Rottweiler nestled in that stroller, she is willfully putting herself in a "situation" that is not desirable. She jogs early in the am, on streets with no people around, dimly lit, and she always runs the same side of the street, and you can set a railroad watch by her each morning. It is a shame that a person cant jog or walk the streets alone, but I believe everyone knows by now, its not the best idea anymore after dark. I just dont think she is "aware "of her surroundings, or maybe is just being naive , either way , I wish she would get a jogging partner. These pervs on the streets now , couldnt give a bees butt, about the fact she has her baby with her, IF she thinks that is a shield for her. o.k, done here, just really bugs me to see women not keeping themselves out of harms way, but it looks like you got your bases covered , if you cant kick em, you can always shootem,

 

No Matt, your not worrying too much, you have what seems to be hard to find anymore, its called emphathy. I dont advocate all young or mature, women need to be packing. CCW is not for all people. I think self protection awareness, watching who they keep company with, and where they hang out, will go a long way in keeping your friends from harm. Just dont use scare tactics to help a friend become aware of whats on the streets, just coach them like you would a student on any matter, and hope they listen, before they become a victim too. There are some people that you could make them too scared to come out of the house, if they knew, as Mr. Theo pointed out above, what they are walking on the streets with. cheers

 

that is a very good point but there are also the people who wont listen unless you scare the heck outa them. I guess the point I'm trying to get at is to teach a person you hae to know how they think and find the best way to get people to realize what to look for and who not to talk to.

 

yeah, good point about being aware of your surroundings, and patterns.

I used to jog on a road around my house every tuesday, thursday, and saturday sometime in the afternoon. One time on a tuesday i noticed an older red grand prix was kept driving by me pretty often. This is an almost dead road, i'd be surprised to see 2 cars pass me the whole time, much less the same one over and over again.

So i saw it coming up behind me for like the 5th time. So i stopped, turned around and held my arms out like "what the freak do you want?". The windows had pretty strong tint so i couldnt see who was in it, but they just floored the gas when they saw i was on to them. I didnt see them again.

So on thursday i went out to the road in my jogging clothes....and for some reason i just started thinking: "you know what? i just flat out dont feel like jogging today". So i didnt go, i just started walking around my lawn, doing much of nothing. Then i saw the same grand prix from the other day drive by my house VERY slowly. It was almost as if they were going to pull in my driveway, then they seemed to notice that i was standing out in my lawn watching them, so they took off.

Well they kept coming back, driving by real slow like they were going to pull in, then took off. So finally i went inside, got a ball bat, went back out and hide in a large pine tree by the road. Sure enough this car came by, and pulled in my driveway. The tree was only about 7 feet from my driveway, so i immediatly walked up to it and tapped on the driver's window with the bat. Even through the tint i could see an older low class looking guy in there, he saw me and looked stunned. He just floored it in reverse, kicking gravel everywhere and took off down the road.

To this day i have no idea what that guy was up to, i think he was just up to no good and he was flat out crazy, which would explain the weirdness of it all. I got the plates and reported it, the police informed me that this guy was already arrested on a murder charge.

So now i make a point never to go running at any set date or time. This guy was obviously watching my patterns, and may have even been spying on my house somehow. Who knows what he was after...

 

wow there is a big note to self. being a miltary guy the fitness thing is a big part of my life. looks like I'm gonna keep an eye out for wierdo's more than usual.