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Old May 15, 2021 | 02:19 PM
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Hello , My task is the replace the old worn rear drums on floating axles with new drums , shoes , and wheel cylinders . From the picture will I need to press out the wheel studs to get the flange changed over to the new drums ? This on my 1974 F 350 .

 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 02:41 PM
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Yes they get pressed out, I highly suggest if those drums are serviceable you turn them instead of replacing them. The imported drum you bought is full of troubles and just not made like the original. The upside is you don't have to press any studs out if you turn the drums. Make sure you have the proper socket and set pre-load and final torque correctly. Don't use the hammer and chisel method on the spindle nuts.
 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 03:53 PM
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What he said.

To add, are you asking if you press the studs out to get the drum off the hub or do you mean after the hub is off the axle. because it has to come off. check your bearings and replace the seal while you're at it.

If you do have to knock the studs out you can hammer them out just use a brass rod or something to protect the stud , if you don't have a press.
 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 04:14 PM
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its obvious that there is a gap and then the flat / flange that the rim goes against . And the wheel studs are going out through this . That piece is not on the new drum . If I can find a shop to measure the inside wear of the drums .

I have this drum off , knocked out the old oil seal , of which I over looked to get new ones ,,,, and the project continues .
 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 05:25 PM
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lots of parts houses can turn drums and rotors. they will measure it for you and see if they think they can clean it up and stay in spec.

Normally the drum is flat just like the one in your picture. the gap you're talking about should be on the hub so your new drum should be correct.

If your drum can be turned you may have to knock the studs out anyway. the shop that does mine can't do it on the hub. but some can.
 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 05:26 PM
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Yep, seals, bearings, races, lock washer set, proper torque and then back off, many write ups on this procedure, get it all done while your in there..... and dont be surprised if you have a seal leak. Take a good look at the surface that the seal lip rides on for pitting and rough surface, once you start replacing that stuff and its riding on the old stuff.... I found the best way to get those studs seated square was to start with the sledge and then take a lug nut and washer, lug nut upside down, washer underneath and impact, will pull those studs flush. Nothing sucks more than to look under your fresh rebuild and see that wet spot on the back of the brake housing.... take your time and get'r right the first time.
 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 07:13 PM
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Yes there was a oil seal failure passenger side . Still had the Fomoco # EOTA-1175-AA oil seals in . Could it have been from the differential

vent tube blocked from mud or dirt , didn't get to look yet . Both left n right adjuster cables out of their groove guide plate . That explains the poor adjustment control on the shoes .
The one weird thing is the rear left drum , the wheel nuts come loose turning clock wise ? This should be to tighten the lug nuts . Lefty loosey / right -tight .. Its left to tighten for some reason .

 
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Old May 15, 2021 | 07:29 PM
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My '79 F350 also has LH threads on the LH side. all real trucks are this way. oddly enough for the 1970 model year only almost all Chrysler products did.
 
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and I was thinking did the drums get changed to the wrong side all this time .
 
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Old May 16, 2021 | 09:19 AM
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Should be an "L" on the end of the stud for LH threads. Broke 3 off on mine with an inch drive impact before I figured it out.
 
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Old May 16, 2021 | 10:04 AM
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Highly impressed with the condition of the brakes, this truck must be low mileage and not see salt. Everything looks good just worn shoes and a slight spindle seal leak.
 
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Nope . Never driven in winter hardly . And in the shed when not used since the day it was driven off the new car lot . Been poked a lot if its for sale .

There is a L on those wheel studs and not on the passenger side .
 
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Front and rear on the driver side should be left hand. right side is standard so no marking.
 
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Old May 17, 2021 | 07:21 AM
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I'm the original owner of a 1976 F350 supercab and I know from experience that only the left rear had LH threaded studs. I converted my left rear wheel studs to RH in order to use Alcoa wheels and their screw on lug nut covers. They did not make a LH threaded lug nut that would accommodate the threaded on lug nut cover.
 
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Old May 17, 2021 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RustyTrustyF150
Yes there was a oil seal failure passenger side . Still had the Fomoco # EOTA-1175-AA oil seals in . Could it have been from the differential vent tube blocked from mud or dirt, didn't get to look yet.
That's what happened to me on my F150 with a 9 inch rear. I spotted a leak into the driver side brake, and started researching and stumbled onto someone citing the vent as a possible cause. Sure enough, mine was plugged so tight with dirt daubers that I couldn't poke a screw driver through it. I had to use a dang drill to clear the hollow bolt!

The leak stopped for a few years, but now it's back.
 
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