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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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Another industry headed for downsizing

On Jan 5, 2004, we can count on our foreign tourist industry, which has lost 25% of all jobs since 9/11, taking a great big hit due to new Homeland Security measures.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...today/11927440

Even with the drastic drop since 9/11 foreign tourists spent $88 billion here last year and provided one million jobs.

Is our government so stupid as to believe these enormously expensive, industry-crippling measures would actually deter a dedicated terrorist(s)? To me, it looks like another ‘feel good’ bureaucratic empire to pacify the general public. Bin Laden has to be having a laugh at this one.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 12:46 PM
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I've been hesitant to reply to the posts such as this and others that have dealt with our foreign policy...until now. I agree, george, and also, I think ben Laden and Hussein are both having good laugh about how they've dealt us the devastating blow instead of the other way around.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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I don't think, the current administration, even thought about the economics of their policies. I never thought about the tourism industry, till George brought it up. A lot of jobs lost.
It is just like the state of Indiana, awarding a contract to an overseas company for, information tech upgrade and software and engineering. How many unemployed IT techs are out there?
Did Indiana think? No. They got a better price in India.
Does any government entity think before they leap?
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 04:58 PM
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Can you imagine the uproar if other countries imposed these rules on travelling Americans?? The good news is that as our tourism shrinks and goes away there will be less travellers to screen.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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Re: Another industry headed for downsizing

Originally posted by georgedavila
On Jan 5, 2004, we can count on our foreign tourist industry, which has lost 25% of all jobs since 9/11, taking a great big hit due to new Homeland Security measures.
Not to worry about the lost jobs in the tourist industry, we'll make up for it by hiring more government employees for all the new government jobs that were "created". There's no problem that a bigger government can't solve. Seriously though, the misguided attempts to make us safer keep me from flying, it's too much of a hassle. And I seriously doubt that safety has increased much because we aren't doing the things that could really make us safer. We didn't need new laws, just enforcement of existing ones.

"To me, it looks like another ‘feel good’ bureaucratic empire to pacify the general public. "

If it were only that benign. Maybe it is, but I have a feeling that something worse is going on that we won't fully understand until the fit really hits the shan.
 
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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Can you imagine the uproar if other countries imposed these rules on travelling Americans?? The good news is that as our tourism shrinks and goes away there will be less travellers to screen.
But I thought our way is always the right way. That's what my elected officials keep telling me when they say everything is turning around, Iraq truly wants us there, statistics are encouraging, the economy is improving without job growth and all those other words. You're correct, we don't need those jobs, those tourists can find other destinations and those devoted governent screening employees won't have to work as hard. I need to change my thinking and develop a more positive attitude on what I formerly looked at as disasters. Maybe start watching a lot of network TV, buy only US products, invest in the equity markets and start calling anyone who doesn't agree with me a liberal ******.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 03:27 AM
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At a time when new housing starts are one of the only things proping up our economy, our government decides to send 600 shiploads of lumber to rebuid Iraq. And at a time when Canada has all but shut down its logging due to forrest fires. ( we get almost 40% of our lumber from Canada ). Have you bought a sheet of plywood lately? The price has doubled in the last couple months.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:57 AM
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yeah it's keeping the plywood mills here, that were in the process of closing down, open.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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There's an interesting cycle of tax money. Tax money to buy the product, withholding and corporate taxes to ship it and apply it in Iraq. At least the workers will get a little something. Though the last modern plywood mill I saw (in the process of being converted to use pressed chip) was pretty well automated.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 09:09 AM
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terrorist?

So, I assume you don't care if terrorists live and do their work in your neighborhood?

If alive, I doubt B. Laden or S. Hussein are doing allot of 'good' laughing as one of you posted. I guess no one in this post lost any loved ones on 9/11. I did, and I support my President 100%.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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That means you're one of the 51% who do approve.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 05:56 PM
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I firmly believe that no president can do a good job if his people are in opposition to him. You may nor respect the man but you should respect his position as president. I think Bush screwed up attacking under the auspices of finding weapons of chemical warfare. They found no trace to the best of my knowledge and his justification was tarnished. He should have just came out and said what was up. Something like " We are going to kick your butts on principal alone and we won't stop until we decide we're done."
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:33 PM
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I think the same problem exists with our administration's lack of credibilty regarding the economy. All their attention is focused on Iraq in desperate attempts to get the UN to shoulder the load before election time, with little success. When you continue to tell the public our economy is 'improving' with the largest loss of jobs since the great depression, and contine shoveling money and effort into Iraq, sooner or later they (the public) figures out that they're not the most important consideration on the agenda. That's what cost dada his second term.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by willowbilly3
I firmly believe that no president can do a good job if his people are in opposition to him. You may nor respect the man but you should respect his position as president. I think Bush screwed up attacking under the auspices of finding weapons of chemical warfare. They found no trace to the best of my knowledge and his justification was tarnished. He should have just came out and said what was up. Something like " We are going to kick your butts on principal alone and we won't stop until we decide we're done."
With all due respect, and I know this topic has been debated alot, but if you're the President of the United States and you ask your country to commit it's financial and human resources to a multi billion dollar, long term military conflict, you should be ABSOLUTELY sure of your information beforehand. Your intelligence should be so solid that you can pinpoint these weapons immediately or show evidence that they existed. The more you hear and read about this conflict "after the fact", every reason we used to justify it is having trouble holding water. As a taxpaying American citizen, I'll back anything that is necessary to protect and preserve this country, just tell it to me straight. Don't sugar coat it, exaggerate it, or embellish it: especially when peoples lives are at stake.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2003 | 06:50 PM
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jskufan, I think we are on the same page here. You said what I meant, only worded it better.

To quote one of my favorite Clint Eastwood lines " Don't pee down my back and tell me it's raining."

I will say this though, we as Americans demanded of them to find a villian to trounce after 9-11 and to do it quickly.
 
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