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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 09:01 AM
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The video I mentioned;

 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 09:13 AM
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by empire_designs
I think the part I am missing is the yoke. It's talked about where does it get installed, on the truck or the trailer? With some giant device on the truck this makes sense to me, otherwise the pivot point is the ball and I don't get the "projection" portion.

There has been some good input here, I will be calling ProPride and getting their official sales pitch at some point.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by riverratrusty
I think the part I am missing is the yoke. It's talked about where does it get installed, on the truck or the trailer? With some giant device on the truck this makes sense to me, otherwise the pivot point is the ball and I don't get the "projection" portion.

There has been some good input here, I will be calling ProPride and getting their official sales pitch at some point.

The ball is effectively locked in place by the 4 link setup. You no longer rotate around the ball, you rotate around the 4 link. Your new connection point becomes the stinger - which has no pivot point - locking the truck to the 4 link box.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by riverratrusty
I think the part I am missing is the yoke. It's talked about where does it get installed, on the truck or the trailer? With some giant device on the truck this makes sense to me, otherwise the pivot point is the ball and I don't get the "projection" portion.

There has been some good input here, I will be calling ProPride and getting their official sales pitch at some point.

The yoke gets mounted to the underside of the trailer tongue, and it's not a giant device at all.
The ball is used on a PP or HA but there is no pivoting on the ball at all, the hitch clamps to the ball but is held perfectly still there at all times, no movement at the ball. All of the movement is done via the unequal links in between the upper and lower hitch heads, it's that non parallel link setup that projects the pivot point forward (almost to the rear axle) that makes the trailer behave more like a fifthwheel than a bumper pull.
The only thing actually on the truck is the stinger, which is pretty much like a standard ball mount drawbar but without a ball, only two small "wings" to accept the overcenter latches that connect the trailer to the truck.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 11:17 AM
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Wink In fact there is movement at the ball, but...

...it is not pivoting right or left relative to the tow vehicle at the ball as mentioned. The hitch does easily twist side to side or up/down when unhitched or when the tow vehicle and the trailer traverse uneven ground together. Thought it useful to mention this in case someone unfamiliar saw one hanging loose by the ball when unhitched and was tempted to call 3P owners liars.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 03:28 PM
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I use one to tow our 30' Airstream and I absolutely wouldn't want to use any other hitch. We started off with the standard Reese kit, but couldn't get the sway adjusted out. The P3 works as advertised (as mentioned above), and if I had the means, every trailer I own in the future would wear one.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 04:37 PM
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The "equa-liz-er" brand square bar (no chains) uses solid "L" brackets. I have been using a 7500 - 10,000 lb GVW trailer for 10+ years. Any chain bars are for leveling and equalizing load to the front axle of the trailer. So, like any other round bar, chain connected weight distribution hitch, the ProPride and Hensley Models still don't do what the true "Equalizer" does which is true 4 point sway control, side to side, up and down, as well as loading the front axle of your truck and levelling or weight distribution.

Consider is your equalizer hitch the right model, or weight rating and is it set up properly?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 04:46 PM
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Equalizer is a very good hitch, but I will keep my Propride.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 05:52 PM
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I had an Equalizer, it was a good hitch and my only complaint was getting grease on my leg all the time. The Propride is a superior product, but it should be at 4 times the price.

One can buy a $400 shotgun or a $3000 shotgun. Both go boom, but don't try to tell me there is no difference.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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Ah. The Hensley (or a knock-off of it).

I'm not a fan. It is ridiculously over-complicated for what it is.

I have heard several people say they love this kind of design and that they totally eliminate sway, which is great - but the cost just doesn't justify it to me.

It works by SIMULATING moving the turning point forward in the vehicle, closer to your rear axle, like a fifth wheel (which tend to not sway as easily). The problem is there are other hitches out there that ACTUALLY move the turning point forward (can't recall the name of it right now, or if they are even still in business) that are (were) MUCH cheaper, though still more than a standard WDH with a separate sway bar (my personal favorite, and tried and true).



Y'all notice that everyone who speaks down on the PP or Hensley hasn't ever used one?
Comparing these hitches to a typical WDH with a friction sway control (of any type) is apples-oranges. They simply don't achieve the same result because they operate on TOTALLY different principles. If a friction control locked the trailer into a straight line well enough to eliminate sway, then it would never go around a corner. The converging links of the PP or HA mechanically lock the trailer into a straight line behind the truck, but only the truck can "break" the links over and allow the trailer to follow through a turn.
I pull a 38 ft over-all-length toy hauler weighing right at 13K lbs with my 17 F250 running 38" tires, and the Hensley hitch allows me to run the interstate speeds with zero worries. I have installed this same hitch on 3 campers now and will continue to move it to the next one any time we purchase a TT.




 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ldnclr
Y'all notice that everyone who speaks down on the PP or Hensley hasn't ever owned one? .




Pretty sure that's what I wrote here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19821309

Please try to PAY ATTENTION.




 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 07:48 PM
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Sheesh. Everyone lighten up. It's not like this is an engine oil thread.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 07:57 PM
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Sheesh. Everyone lighten up. It's not like this is an engine oil thread.
Or a Diesel V Gas Thread.

But can we be realistic?

All those that used/own the Hensley/PP love it and would buy again? = Some have used other products.

VS

Never had it? Not worth it? Loaded Wrong? Never used the Hensley/Pro Pride.

TBH

I had another version WDH and a member on here told me about a USED Pro Pride and I drove 240 miles to pick it up,

YMMV
 
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Old Apr 8, 2021 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mecdac








Pretty sure that's what I wrote here: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post19821309

Please try to PAY ATTENTION.



Mecdac, Im not sure where the link was supposed to take me (it went to the top of this same thread) but I think we are on the same page....
 
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