Discrepancy in cargo payload?
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Discrepancy in cargo payload?
Going through paper work that came with my truck and saw this.
If I am reading it correctly, it says my maximum cargo weight is 2255 pounds. Door sticker shows 2961 pounds.
If I am reading it correctly, it says my maximum cargo weight is 2255 pounds. Door sticker shows 2961 pounds.
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The 22XX is the weight IN THE BED of the truck. I.E. the camper and all its contents.
The 29XX is the total weight capacity, including all passengers in the cabin, dogs in the cabin, tools, groceries whatever may also be in the cabin; NOT in the bed of the truck, AND the load in the bed.
The 29XX is the total weight capacity, including all passengers in the cabin, dogs in the cabin, tools, groceries whatever may also be in the cabin; NOT in the bed of the truck, AND the load in the bed.
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Safety recall for select 2020 Ford F-Series Super Duty vehicles with 6.7-liter engines for labels with incorrect payload information
Affected vehicles display overstated payload capacity values on the tire and loading information label, overstated accessory reserve capacity values on the safety certification label, and overstated weight values on the truck camper loading documentation. If the vehicles are loaded to the payload stated on the tire and loading information label, they may exceed the gross vehicle weight rating or gross axle weight rating. This may result in tire loading beyond rated capacity, suspension overload and increased stopping distance, which could increase the risk of a crash.
This action affects 9,979 2020 Ford F-Series Super Duty vehicles in the U.S. and federal territories and 1,750 in Canada. They were built at Kentucky Truck Plant from May 13, 2019 to, Sept. 19, 2020.
Ford is not aware of any accidents or injuries related to this condition.
Owner notifications will begin the week of March 22. Dealers will replace the tire and loading information label, safety certification label and, if needed, the truck camper loading document. The Ford reference number for this recall is 21S06.
Affected vehicles display overstated payload capacity values on the tire and loading information label, overstated accessory reserve capacity values on the safety certification label, and overstated weight values on the truck camper loading documentation. If the vehicles are loaded to the payload stated on the tire and loading information label, they may exceed the gross vehicle weight rating or gross axle weight rating. This may result in tire loading beyond rated capacity, suspension overload and increased stopping distance, which could increase the risk of a crash.
This action affects 9,979 2020 Ford F-Series Super Duty vehicles in the U.S. and federal territories and 1,750 in Canada. They were built at Kentucky Truck Plant from May 13, 2019 to, Sept. 19, 2020.
Ford is not aware of any accidents or injuries related to this condition.
Owner notifications will begin the week of March 22. Dealers will replace the tire and loading information label, safety certification label and, if needed, the truck camper loading document. The Ford reference number for this recall is 21S06.
Ford Motor Company Issues Safety Compliance and Safety Recalls in North America | Ford Media Center
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@Frank79 I took a look at your profile, which says you have an F-250. That, along with the fact you have the 6.7 PSD, I will say that the door sticker is probably wrong. 2255 will be real close to your total payload......camper, dogs, kids, groceries, fire wood, generator, everything.
My 2019 6.7 Long Bed had a door sticker of 2220 pounds. But that truck didn't have the high capacity trailer tow package.
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Does it make a difference that I have the high capacity trailer tow package? If not, then this sucks! I bought this truck based on the cargo weight I can carry. 1-200 pounds I can live with. But pushing 800 pounds is going to be an issue.
My 2019 6.7 Long Bed had a door sticker of 2220 pounds. But that truck didn't have the high capacity trailer tow package.
My 2019 6.7 Long Bed had a door sticker of 2220 pounds. But that truck didn't have the high capacity trailer tow package.
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Does it make a difference that I have the high capacity trailer tow package? If not, then this sucks! I bought this truck based on the cargo weight I can carry. 1-200 pounds I can live with. But pushing 800 pounds is going to be an issue.
My 2019 6.7 Long Bed had a door sticker of 2220 pounds. But that truck didn't have the high capacity trailer tow package.
My 2019 6.7 Long Bed had a door sticker of 2220 pounds. But that truck didn't have the high capacity trailer tow package.
I'm not certain but I thought I read previously that the camper load rating assumes all seating locations are filled and deducts that weight from the payload. It seems to me that your truck should be able to handle more than 2255 of your 2961 payload if CG limits are met. After all, when making calculations for 5th wheel towing, it's simply payload minus people and cargo leaves you with available pin weight. That pin weight is located in the same area as the slide in camper. So you still have to consider the weight of people and cargo but that may be less than 706 pounds. You might pick up a couple hundred pounds but probably not much more than that unless you travel light.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't GVW - Total weight of the truck = Max Cargo Weight?
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GVWR (Gross Vehicle Weight Rating) - Curb Weight = Payload
The manufacturer's GVW rating (10,800 lbs in the case of your truck) is the legal basis for everything else.
If by GVW you mean the max weight for your truck based on the least capable of axle, wheels, tires, etc and total weight of the truck is the truck's empty (or curb weight) then, yes, your equation results in max cargo weight. But this is not the legal cargo weight. If your truck is weighed by LE you may be okay for the specified axle and tire weight ratings but exceed the trucks GVWR. That may result in a ticket.
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That equation gives you the real world "payload" weight, which is the load in the bed, on the hitch, passengers, tools, etc..... It's my understanding that the camper "cargo" weight is what's left of the payload with a set weight passenger seated in every seating position, it does get confusing. If you don't travel with every seating position filled that missing weight can be added to what the camper could weigh.
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I'm betting your payload sticker is correct. If this was a higher trim long bed, then I would question it, but its not. Based on payload numbers I've seen on 10k GVWR CCSB trucks, yours is right in line with what it should be considering the additional 800lb GVWR.
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I had questioned the exact same thing when I got my truck. Take a look at the ford towing guide ( https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...owingGuide.pdf ) Check out the Pickup/camper selector section on page 12. On the right side of the page it states "Cargo Weight Rating shown in chart is maximum allowable, assuming weight of a base vehicle with required camper option content and a 150-lb. passenger at each available seating position". So on my truck I have seating for 6 at 150 lbs. per seat or 900 lbs. of payload. When I add 900 lbs. to the camper certificate it puts me within a few pounds of the yellow sticker. I don't know why its not exact. I guess for the certificate it's assumed you will fill or potentially fill all of the seats. The problem is I don't think I was 150 lbs. since I was 12.
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Yes, the HCTT package does make a difference. It gives you an additional 800lb of GVWR, 10800 GVWR. The white sticker should reflect that. Put your VIN into this site, let us know what it says for payload.
https://fordfleetlive.com/#/VinCalculator
I'm betting your payload sticker is correct. If this was a higher trim long bed, then I would question it, but its not. Based on payload numbers I've seen on 10k GVWR CCSB trucks, yours is right in line with what it should be considering the additional 800lb GVWR.
https://fordfleetlive.com/#/VinCalculator
I'm betting your payload sticker is correct. If this was a higher trim long bed, then I would question it, but its not. Based on payload numbers I've seen on 10k GVWR CCSB trucks, yours is right in line with what it should be considering the additional 800lb GVWR.
