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Old Mar 19, 2021 | 08:16 PM
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Brake Pedal Stop pad ??

Hello from a new member...long time lurker who just signed on.
And, of course, I have a problem that needs solved. Should be an easy one but it's got me stumped.

2015 F250 Super Duty

The small rubber pad/cushion -the brake pedal stop pad - fell on the floor board today. I've searched far and wide on the web for a replacement bumper pad and nada...zilch...zip....just brake pedal stop pads for Honda/Mazda/Toyota. Dorman makes them but I'm coming up with nothing.

Does anyone know where to get one of these small pads? Ford Parts web site doesn't even have them.

Short of putting an adhesive bumper of the same size but without the nipple that locks it in place, I'm out of ideas.

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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 07:47 AM
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Look for Dorman part number 20753. Should work for you very well. I had to replace my brake pedal pad recently as it wore out in a corner and that is the part number I used.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 08:21 AM
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Thanks for the response but I'm not referring to the foot pad.
I need this part: It plugs into a small hole in the upper arm of the brake pedal shaft, behind the brake light switch. The bumper is what the brake light switch shaft rests against. Without it, the switch shaft extends out too far from the switch and the brake lights stay on continuously. That switch also controls the cruise control and all of the brake features like hill descend, traction control, etc.
It's a $2 part and available for imports by the truckload. But my local small town Ford dealer parts dept has never heard of it. The one that snapped off in my F250 looks like the 2nd from the left...the white one...but that one in the photo, which is a Dorman product, is for Honda.


Brake pedal stop pad/bumper
 
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 08:47 AM
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Okay. I misread it. That I know I dont have a number on from work.
 
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 10:49 AM
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Well, as it turns out, that part is not available from any source...not even Ford. It is part of the brake pedal assembly. And even though it's a $4 part for any import, Ford stopped making the part available in the late 80's. So the only way to replace the part with the exact size bumper is to replace the brake pedal assembly.

"That's how they build things these days" has been said to me more than once in the past 24 hours. Ridiculous is my only reply.

So, other than fabricating some sort of rigged system to make the brake light switch engage properly, the pedal assembly has to be replaced. Considering that system, along with the switch and related bumper pad, also controls the other brake functions on the F250, as well as the cruise control, and ensures the truck won't go into limp mode, that's what I have chosen to do.

Fortunately my extended warranty covers it so I'm only out the $100 deductible. But it's still ridiculous.
One guy said that modern vehicles are built to have entire assembly units replaced instead of 10 cent parts within those units.

If it were otherwise I guess they wouldn't be able to stay in business.

And if the truck were an old beater I'd rig it and be done...but not on a 2015 that is reliant on computer programming. At least I feel assured that when I get it back from the dealership it will be fixed right and back to normal operating condition.

c'est la vie

 
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Old Mar 20, 2021 | 11:08 AM
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Makes sense. More money in the assembly.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2021 | 12:35 PM
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Just remembered this morning that when I was at the dealership showing the problem to the Service Mgr
I had the brake light switch hanging by the wiring harness from underneath the dash area below the steering wheel. I'd already removed the trim panel.

But, to be able to drive the truck to the dealer I had to put duct tape over the switch so the spring loaded stem was pushed in, which gave the computer the indication that the brake pedal was in the correct position. Without the tape over it, the stem is fully extended, which would indicate that the brake pedal was being pushed and the brake lights are on. This also comes into play in order to get the truck out of Park.

So, when I was leaving home to go to the dealership, I removed the tape and extended the switch shaft, and the truck came out of park. THen I replaced the tape, compressing the switch shaft, and drove to the dealer.

So...after showing the Service Mgr the 'trick' to get the truck out of park, I am pretty sure I left the tape off the switch, which would have left the brake lights on continuously. I'm guessing that after sitting there for approx 48 hours with the brake lights on the battery will be dead when they get around to moving it into the service bay.

Which brings me to the question of how they're going to be able to pop the hood and put a charger on the
battery, if the battery is dead and they can't open the door with the key fob. I don't remember if the door lock has a key slot on the outside.

I think I'm overthinking this, for sure, lol. But I figure they'll figure something out. I think the hood latch can be triggered with a long screwdriver from the grill. But hopefully there's a key slot on the outside door handle.

ok...too much coffee this morning!


 
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:34 AM
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Got a call Tuesday morning from the Svc Mgr letting me know that the part has been ordered and ships from the Nashville dist center. Should take 3 days to get it and 7/8ths of an hour labor according to the service book.
So they hope to have it ready by Friday or Saturday. Warranty covers all of it.
In the meantime I have my Road King to ride.
First World Problems for sure.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2021 | 08:46 AM
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Sounds good.
 
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Old Sep 10, 2021 | 12:02 AM
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3D print one out of TPU

Make a round pad 0.75" in diameter and 0.15" tall add a stem on top of it 0.2" in diameter and 0.3" tall. Print a few at a time so the printed gets off the part to prevent sagging. 10 cent solution. 😁

Originally Posted by mbvoxx53
Well, as it turns out, that part is not available from any source...not even Ford. It is part of the brake pedal assembly. And even though it's a $4 part for any import, Ford stopped making the part available in the late 80's. So the only way to replace the part with the exact size bumper is to replace the brake pedal assembly.

"That's how they build things these days" has been said to me more than once in the past 24 hours. Ridiculous is my only reply.

So, other than fabricating some sort of rigged system to make the brake light switch engage properly, the pedal assembly has to be replaced. Considering that system, along with the switch and related bumper pad, also controls the other brake functions on the F250, as well as the cruise control, and ensures the truck won't go into limp mode, that's what I have chosen to do.

Fortunately my extended warranty covers it so I'm only out the $100 deductible. But it's still ridiculous.
One guy said that modern vehicles are built to have entire assembly units replaced instead of 10 cent parts within those units.

If it were otherwise I guess they wouldn't be able to stay in business.

And if the truck were an old beater I'd rig it and be done...but not on a 2015 that is reliant on computer programming. At least I feel assured that when I get it back from the dealership it will be fixed right and back to normal operating condition.

c'est la vie
 
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Old Jul 20, 2022 | 08:41 AM
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Actually printed myself 1 that worked using this file:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4269017
 
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 09:05 AM
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Wouldn't TPU be a better filament for this?
Since the original was rubber.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2022 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by geodane
Wouldn't TPU be a better filament for this?
Since the original was rubber.
Most likely, i haven't used TPU prior so cant say. I did make it using PETG as that is what i had on hand. Seems to be working great so far.
 
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 06:41 AM
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Service Part Number

If anybody should encounter this in the future there is a service part number that Ford has made available. The original build bumper was not made durable enough and becomes brittle over time, will crumble, and fall apart. More times than not the brake lights will be stuck on after the piece breaks off. Climate seems to play a factor in the brittleness. High temperature climates, high cabin temps - (trucks parked outside in summer in the sun) and humidity appear to accelerate the brittleness. The service part number is: MR3Z-7583-A , it costs about $1.40
 
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Old Dec 6, 2022 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Everglades ATV & Truck Guy
If anybody should encounter this in the future there is a service part number that Ford has made available. The original build bumper was not made durable enough and becomes brittle over time, will crumble, and fall apart. More times than not the brake lights will be stuck on after the piece breaks off. Climate seems to play a factor in the brittleness. High temperature climates, high cabin temps - (trucks parked outside in summer in the sun) and humidity appear to accelerate the brittleness. The service part number is: MR3Z-7583-A , it costs about $1.40

Wish I'd had this info back when I had to resolve this issue. lol. but if it ever happens again - Thanks!
 
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